Good for Karl. I hope he gets it and is succesful. Good luck Karl.

Please take Jay Norvell with you Karl

As with Bob Toledo, I am becoming gravely concerned that the players influence, lack of urgency on DG’s part, and the fading candidate pool will result in Walker being named the Head Coach. Unless DG has some names in his bag that aren’t so obvious, Walker might be the only person with a chair when the music stops.

If Duke hires Karl Dorrell, how does that affect his payoff?

I think he would be a good fit at Duke. Running a clean program is much more important than winning there.

Since I wish nothing but the best for KD, I hope things work out for him at Duke…..by the way, SMU is said to be offering $2 million a year for a coach…SMU!!!!!!! I agree with Jim M about the coaching pool and last night during half of Appalachian-Richmond game, ESPN’s Ed Cunningham said DW should get the job! Did anyone see that game? Sure is nice to see teams that know how to play offense!

Bruce … that is just effing unbelievable. When we were saying that there was a campaign to get Walker the job people called us paranoid. How can there be any doubt in anyone’s mind now? Who the F**k is Ed Cunningham to know what is good for our football program?!

WHP … Dorrell would NOT get that $2M payout. So, we should all wish him good luck and hopes he gets that job!!

Maybe it’s time for Guerrero to think twice about Neuheisel. It doesn’t seem anyone is interested in the job. Please, I beg you Guerrero hire Neuheisel if no one else is interested. For the love of ucla football do not settle o Walker or anyone on Dorrell’s staff. That would be another 5 years of 6-6 finishes.

whp,

It really all depends. Maybe the DD staff has reviewed Dorrell’s contract. But generally speaking, it depends on how the non-compete is structured. If for example, it’s based on not being on UCLA’s schedule for the next 4 years, then he’d probably be ok going to Duke. Again, I speak in general terms since I haven’t reviewed his contract.

Ole Miss’ new coach Houston Nutt got a $3+ Million dollar buyout from Arkansas and he gets to keep it since they didn’t have a non-compete clause in his contract. My college coach was fired and kept his buyout after going to another Div 1-A school.

If Dorrell’s contract has a clause that prevents him from taking ANY college job, too bad for him since the Duke job probably would only pay him $2 mil over a 4 to 5 year period.

Better register the “DumpNeuheisel.com” domain, if it’s not still in use at Colorado or Washington. He’s a bum with no integrity. Definite no on him.

i agree!! Who the FOOOOK is Ed Cunningham?! that’s unbelievable! That’s it; we have to pick up our efforts against DW. DD, who are you endorsing? I think your endorsement needs to come on soon. Also, you need to try to go back to the radio stations. Call them up to see if you can go back on the air and not only endorse a candidate, but bring awareness to this DW issue. I can help, if you need.

Duke and Dorrell are a really good match up. Frankly, that’s where he should’ve been before he came to UCLA.

Hey, thanks for your patience with me. I’m a pretty intense person and there is nothing I am more passionate about than UCLA football. When the Bruins lose, my wife hides for a couple days.

I hope Dan Guerrero hires a guy who feels the same way. In other words, I don’t want a coach who can lose without having a knot in his guts. I don’t want a coach who can go 7-5 on the year and think to himself, “Hey, this is UCLA. Nobody seriously expects me to win here.” That is baloney. I want a national championship. Period. And, I want a program that is respected across the country as one that will have to be reckoned with every year before the dust settles.

Football is an emotional game. The history of the game is replete with instances where emotion and determination and sheer “wanna” has trumped superior athletic skill. Now, picture a team with all the skill parts in place and ADD to the mix a “do or die” stubborn, bleed blue and gold, dogged determination-to-win component. That’s what I want. A team that, when opposing coaches are interviewed after a game say, “Man, that is one tough team. They kept coming at us like some terrible tsunami. I pity the teams on their schedule.”

Hey, we can have that at UCLA. Why the hell not? To reach that goal, we have to have a coach who cannot stomach even losing to his kids at checkers. I know there are those of you who will say, “Wait a minute. Losing a football game isn’t the end of the world. Get a grip, man. Try to get some balance in your life or you’ll go nuts.” Well, I’m sick of mediocrity. People in other areas of the country just kinda nod and wink when you talk to them about UCLA football. They say things like, “There are too many distractions in southern California. Your guys would rather be at the beach than knocking heads with Ohio St.”

I want to change that thinking.

We don’t have to hire the second coming of Knute Rockne. We just need a guy who has the guts and drive to work hard. A detail guy who plans for every contingency, demands excellence from those around him and puts a quality product on the field that makes us proud to say we are UCLA.

Coach John Wooden did it. Look at what he had to endure. When it looked like UCLA would dominate the college basketball world forever, the NCAA, in it’s infinite wisdom, made the dunk shot illegal and tolerated stall games (4-corner offense) so teams could frustrate the Bruins with games ending in scores like 18-14. As soon as Alcindor and Walton were gone, back came the dunk as an integral part of the college game. Poor North Carolina and Kentucky couldn’t handle getting their butts kicked every year.

Let’s hire a coach with more motivation than wanting to use UCLA as a step along the way to some other job. A bulldog competitor with emotional ties to the school would be nice. Then, maybe we can take pride wearing our Bruin hats while walking through the local mall or Vegas casino while overhearing people say, “Man, they have kick ass football team.”

When exactly is this firm going to start bringing up some name for the next UCLA coach? I haven’t heard a damm thing. Has anybody heard anything?

Hey DD,

Do you guys know which firm UCLA hire to do the background ground check for the coaching candidates?

Mike Leach as coach.

Well, I did some research. Here is the result. Mike Leach has a winning record!!

Yes, since he has been at Texas Tech he has regularly defeated the following teams on his schedule:

New Mexico!
Utah St.!
North Texas!
Louisiana Lafayette!
Baylor!
Stephen F. Austin!
SMU!
Florida International!
Sam Houston St.!
Indiana St.!
UTEP!
TCU!
S.E. Louisiana!

Who has he lost to?

Texas A&M
Nebraska
Texas
Oklahoma
Ohio St.
Missouri
Alabama

Well, I don’t know about you, but I’m highly suspect of this guy’s schedule. I wonder if he could handle sc? Hmmmmm. NO.

He has always been known for being a offensive minded coach. His down fall is that he has not hire a DC that can stop anybody. Can you imagine him at UCLA with his offense and if DW stays and that defense. I think they compliment each other.

dUKE wants DUD-rell __ that means duke wants a winner !!!!!!!! _ for us we might not have to give dud-rell all the “get out the door” money

Search firm recommended by karl dud-rell

Javier… I certainly respect your opinion and we are just good-naturedly throwing ideas back and forth here, right? I’m sure we all want what is best for the program.

I don’t think Leach is the guy. Yes, he has a good offensive minded philosophy but lots of coaches fit that bill. I would be willing to bet he would be just an average coach at UCLA.

As for Walker, he needs to go. UCLA’s defense should have been much better than it showed this year. We had quick, experienced athletes on that side of the ball, and, in many games, they made plays in spite of Walker.

UCLA gave up 44 points to a below average Utah team. Sorry, no excuse for that. And, against Washington State (try to get the film of this game to check out what I’m about to say) our defense was lethargic and out of position most of the game. WSU QB Alex Brink, a very lightly recruited kid out of Eugene, Oregon was able to read the Bruin defense at the line of scrimmage with ease. Each time the LB’s cheated out or up, Brink was able to hit crossing patterns in the middle of the field. When the LB’s tipped pass coverage, WSU’s backs were able to get 6 and 8 yards before being touched. The defensive effort in this game was terrible and very difficult to watch.

So, unless Walker gave the team the week off, I can’t understand it. The shut-out against Oregon was a fluke. That team had several key injuries and had to play with a scout team freshman at QB. Jonathan Stewart had turf toe and they had to use defensive players as receivers. With a healthy Dixon, Stewart, Paysinger, Colvin, Pflugrad, J. Johnson, Tuitele and Bacon I fear they would have killed us.

I wish I could endorse Walker. I just can’t.

What do you guys think about Jeff Bower?

He was the coach who resigned from Southern Miss. He led the team to 14 straight winning seasons. 119-82-1 overall.

I still like Bobby Hauck. I’m just throwing other names out.

I doubt of Bower would want to jump into this mess. He has his roots in southern football. He spent a total of 20 years at Southern Miss in one capacity or another and I think he coached at Oklahoma St. for a year or two as a postition coach. Not sure, though.

I just doubt he would be able to dent Carroll’s headlock on things in LA. The word is that Bower’s teams were usually tough and he had some near-miss upsets (close losses to Nebraska and Tennessee) and a 21-0 shutout vs Alabama the same year UCLA beat Alabama 35-24.

DumpDorrell and Bluebruin….feel your pain. You know how if “things are said over and over they tend to become FACT.”
Yes, DW has improved the defense, but the only thing that gets looked at is 13-9! Ya know what game really bugged me — Florida State! They were and still are an AWFUL offense…47!!!!! Also, I’m sure the recruiting has improved, but is there anything more absurd than Recruiting Service ratings?!Jimmy Clausen goes to ND and they become No.1 — doesn’t matter that the Irish still have no speed on offense or defense…they got Clausen!So all we hear — like from Ed Cunningham is “He’s built a great defense and is the architect of a Top Ten recuiting class.” Said over and over and over so it must be FACT…right?
Here’s my prediction: If we beat BYU and the defense plays well….DW will tell DG, I am hiring a top-notch OC and DG will say how much he admires what Walker has done, the players all love him, ya-da, ya-da, ya-da. If BYU kicks butt, then he’ll hire someone else. Who will be left…I don’t know….how about John Robinson, Ted Tollner or Larry Smith or Paul Hackett!!!!!!!!!

Here’s the deal…..

We need a coach that can do a miriad of different things for our program:

1. First and foremost, we need a coach that the players can believe in. Dorrell was a nic enough guy and the players “liked” him, but after losses that should have been wins….i doubt seriously they believed in him. Nothing exemplifies this more than our loss to Notre Dame LAST YEAR

at South Bend. Our players played their hearts out. They were not given a chance to win and here they were within minutes of winning the game and their head coach showed he had NO clock management skills and NO ability to perform under pressure. Dorrell lost that game for those boys not the other way around.

2. We need a coach that young players will want to come and play for. Imagine if you have a son who is a “Blue Chipper”. In walks Pete Carroll, Urben Myer, Les Miles etc….then mild mannered, vanilla emotions Karl Dorrell…..would you send your kid to play for a guy like that??

3. We need a coach that can’t CONSISTENTLY be OUTcoached. Utah, Notre Dame, Arizona etc. would be different if it was a last minute miraculous play that decided it…or if in the final quarter we just got our doors blown off..but that wasn’t the case….we were DOMINATED by teams with LOSING records consistantly…Dorrell had no clue.

4. We need to be willing to spend the $$$ that will bring and KEEP a coach here to start a tradition. USC has that where we do not…McKay, Robinson, Carroll…granted they had their Hacketts and others but they have a history of coaches that come in, win…and build traditions….

5. I am still on the Mariucci band wagon all though many of you have mentioned some intriguing names…whoever it is going to be, I pray it is someone that has the passion AND a workable plan to make things work here. The players deserve it, the school deserves and most impotantly WE F**KING DESERVE IT.

I’M OUT!!!

It all sounds good, all the arguments, all the wishful thinking, but I sincerely hope you guys aren’t building all of us up for a major disappointment. Aint nothin’ gonna happen til after the Vegas Bowl anyway. DG has to leave DW in command or there is absolutely no prayer of expecting the kids to be mentally prepared for that game.

Well, I just read the “Candidate Search Schedule” article and I’m disappointed. Just remember….you heard it here first. If it is one of the four names mentioned, the program will not improve. Maybe we are like sc in that we’ll have to go through our own Tollner, Smith and Hackett eras before we get it right.

About to Puke–love your posts and passion and knowledge. Keep it coming.

Bruce–Thanks for pointing out that no matter how many times something false is repeated, it does not become FACT. Personally I have been appalled at the way the defense let us down in some terrible losses including last year against FSU and this year against Utah. Someone else also mentioned we had a terrible effort against WSU. Frankly, there has not been nearly enough on the defensive side for there to even MERIT DISCUSSION of DW becoming the head coach. It would be the cruelest joke to go from one unqualified coach without any HC experience to another.

With apologies to the ghost of Pepper Rodgers, I feel kinda like I did when he decided to bring the “vaunted offense” of the moment, the wishbone, to UCLA. That year we had some dynamite offensive weapons. Mark Harmon was QB and we had James McAlister (father of Baltimore Ravens CB, Chris) and Kermit Alexander, two horses from Blair Highschool in Pasadena, at RB. We opened the season with a big win against pre-season #1 Nebraska and we were untouchable most of the season running up huge scores.
But, eventually, when the horses left the barn, and defenses caught up to the wishbone, we had to go back to what football is really all about. Blocking and tackling.

If we go with some offense that is based on finesse and trickery, we’ll eventually have to come back to the same conclusion.

Major college football success is predicated upon having top flight athletes who are fundamentally sound in the basics. You coach them to improve technique, get them as fit and strong as possible, practice with purpose to improve execution, give them a sound gameplan so they have a good chance to win, preach discipline and teamwork, and turn them loose.

About to Puke get your #’s straight.

here are some of leaches #’s against those teams “he has lost to”

A&M - won 5 of last 6
OU - won 2 of the last 3
UT - has basically owned leach but they have been a top 10 team the last 5-6 years every year but this one
Ohio State - lost to them in ‘02 when they went to the championship
Nebraska - won the last 2 meetings in ‘04 and ‘05

-#1 in first downs per game
-tech only had to punt the ball 26 times this season

his only downfall is on the defensive side of the ball, which can be fixed with a good D coordinator. but he can consistently put up points to keep his team in any game.

who me? And your point is…….?

The guy beats a bunch of no-name programs and puts up big numbers to pat his overall offensive stats yet loses the games he should win if he wants his team to crack the elite of the Big-12.

I sure HOPE he didn’t have to punt often against the likes of North Texas, Florida International, Stephen F. Austin and Sam Houston State. In fact, those teams should have gotten a 35 point head start against a supposed major college footbal program.

Nebraska has sucked for the past several years and Texas A&M? Yes, now there is a powerhouse.

The fact (as you put it) that his only “downfall” is defense, is like saying Karl Dorrell’s only downfall was not knowing what the laces on the football are for.

About to PUke, good to see you back.

Listen everyone, DW isn’t that special. Here’s another team that completely shredded our defense: BYU!! Watch it happen again.

BYU dissected us in the Rose Bowl. If not for a great individual effort by Brude Davis, we would’ve lost that game. In fact, that game shouldn’t have been close, but it was thanks for the offense, and long, time and yard eating drives by the BYU offense.

Watch their QB, HAll, shred us again. I was trying to tell some frineds of mine early in teh season that I didn’t what was so special about our pass defense. Sure enough, BYU ruined us. Stanford had some arial success, and I had seen that. I felt the same could and would happen against BYU; such was the case.

AGainst UTAH, Iw as so upset. Anyone that watched Bruin REwind on Fox sports saw the part where DW was telling the defense that he, get this, EXPECTED UTAH TO RUN TRICK PLAYS!! His exact words were something to the effect of, ” we knew they were going to do this. We knew they were going to run some trick plays.”

Did anyone else here DW say that to his defense during one of the possession changes? It was embarrasing, because there was nothign tricky about the Utah offense. IT was regular College offense. They didn’t do reverse passes, no flea flicker, nothing like that. They ran a classic, regular college offense, but DW wasn’t prepared for that. Can you believe that? A college Defensive Coordinator not prepared for a team running a College style Offense with its THIRD string QB.

EMBARRASSING!!!

BYU passed all over us, and they’re going to likely do it again in the Bowl game.

By the way, if BYU DOES pass all over us, it’s going to prove that DW isn’t a good enough coach to be the Head Coach. One of the poinst that I’ve made against Dorrell has been that he loses the games in teh video room. It seems that other coaches are able to make the proper adjustments, change their offense / defense, to beat KD. AGainst Utah, UTAH ran all new stuff for the UCLA game. If you read the post game quotes, which can be found on ESPN, you’ll read where the coaches put in new plays and ran different sets to confuse UCLA AND to compensate for the rash of injuries they were suffering. UCLA, as we already know, made no adjustments.

We know that against Notre Dame, there were no adjustments by UCLA to use Osaar after BT proved to be a total joke.

We know that BYU, you can read this at ESPN, too, dropped Eight back in coverage to confuse BEn Olson and shut down the West Coast offense. There were no adjustments made by KD.

THis brings us back to my point: If BYU torches our secondary YET again, then we know DW doesn’t know how to breakdown film and shore up the mistakes that were made against BYU the first time around. IN other words, we’ll know he can’t coach well enough to be the head coach.

Thanks, Diego. Good to be back!

Where is Tommy Bruin? He would love to jump all over the Leach stats who me? put out there.

The Duke job is perfect for Dorrell! I really believe he can be successful there. I think he has the ability to take a team with 1 or 2 wins a season up to 4, 5, or 6, heck maybe even second-tier bowl eligibility! That would be huge for that program. There’s a HUGE difference between taking a bottom-of-the-barrell football program and improving it, and returning what was once a top-tier program back to that level.

Plus the $2M payout can go back into the fund to get a top-tier coach in here stat!

Hi About to Puke, I haven’t really followed Leach and TT. I’m still bummed about losing any chance at Johnson. I’m pessimistic about this whole thing now, I think we’re gonna end up with Walker - after they drag this search thing out forever, there won’t be anybody left that’s any good, and we’ll end up with Walker by default.

Better register “dumpwalker.com” now.

Even if he were a fantastic defensive coordinator (which he’s not), that still wouldn’t make him head coach material for a major university program.

I see that Streeter is (predictably) backing Walker for the HC job. He also took all the comments off his blog (http://www.dontdumpdorrell.blogspot.com) and made it so no new comments can be posted. I guess that’s his idea of “healthy dialogue” - I spew my BS, and you listen to it. That’s Streeter’s idea of dialogue.

puke

my point is, you need to quit throwing BS comments out there that aren’t true just to try and justify your thoughts

Who me?…..What part was BS? I listed teams Texas Tech has beaten since Leaches arrival, and teams they have lost to. That’s BS?

who me? You have just as much right to your opinion as I do. If Leach is your guy, so be it. I think Leach has a pretty good coaching pedigree. I just don’t think he’s a good fit at UCLA. I’ve been pushing Neuheisel because I think he IS a good fit….personality, recruiting prowess, offensive minded, competitive nature, etc. to compete with Carroll for dominancy in LA.

I listed Leach’s record against weak teams because someone had said Neuheisel was a 7-5 season record kind of coach and Leach’s team’s had gaudy stats and were always 9-3, or so.

My point was this: You start your season playing Sam Houston State, New Mexico and North Texas. Your team passes for 500 yards per game in cruising past each of those opponents. Then, you play Texas. You get beat and pass for only 100 yards in the game. Well, your passing ypg is now 400. You still lead the nation in passing yards per game, but what does that prove? You got beat and couldn’t move the ball against a foe you have to beat to be considered a player in the Big-12.

Using your comeback to me about TT’s record, I could also say, “Hey, look at Karl Dorrell’s record. Since coming to UCLA, he has beaten Washington, Oregon, Arizona St., Arizona, Cal, Oklahoma, and sc.” Do we want to keep him as head coach? Nope. Why? Because he has lost to all of the above teams (except maybe Washington) plus WSU, Fresno St., Wyoming, Utah and a crappy 3-9 Notre Dame team.

The point to all of this is, a coach’s W-L record can be deceiving. Sure, we want a winner, but we also need a guy who “fits” the situation. Pete Carroll didn’t fit as head coach of the Jets or Patriots. But, he fits at sc.