my post today to Kstreeter…

KStreet…
I have always been a person able to see both sides of an argument, and process and understand better where someone is coming from after taken the time to escape emotional reactions. I have come to the conclusion that race is an issue IN COLLEGE FOOTBALL, but not at all an issue at UCLA, and to take it further in the PAC10. Theres a million reasons KD will be gone, but UCLA had a black head coach, and I am sure will have another one in the future.

I was thinking UCLA has to at least interview another black coach for the position and even posting this on my favorite UCLA blog that it would be irresponsible not to. However, after reading what my fellow bloggers and socialy responsible, intelligent fellow football fans right I don’t see this as the case. In fact I think that the entire PAC10 conference, just like the liberal social politics of the institutions themselves are lightyears ahead of all those good ol boy and red state conferences, where racism is accepted, and often institutionalized.

As far as I know in the past decade or so 3 of the 10 universities in the conference have had head coaches that are African American and entering this year two of ten, show me any other conference where this stat is approached, and another thing if we want the PAC10 to keep this stat attack your almamater to hire KD, hes available and seems to be at about the same level as Cal’s coach. I know UCLA will remain responsible, and believe the whole PAC10 to be as well. So will take your racist act to the institutions that deserve it please.

Dorrell was hired b/c of race! I’m not sure about the validity of this statement, but immediately after KD was hired I heard rumors directly out of the UCLA athletic department that former (black) players and (black) alum made a huge push for Dorrell’s hiring. The rumor included reports that those alum and former players threatened to discontinue their monetary donations/support if Dorrell was not hired. I could not confirm these rumors with any sort of confirmation or proof, but I never really sought to confirm them either.

As a former UCLA athlete, it was common to often hear “stories” trickle out of the Morgan Center that would never make it to publication…e.i. - the reasons that Jim Harrick was really fired and what may have been contributing factors in hiring his “coffee boy” Lavin.

Has anyone else heard anything about Dorrell’s hiring and the push by certain alum and former players?

ANYONE???

hey, our basketball team lost tonight to Texas. Are you guys going to have a “hack howland” website put up first thing in the morning?

yeah Joe, but only if he can turn into a mediocre coach and forget how to use his roster talent, display the inability to organize and prepare his team properly for every game over the last five years, fire offensive coordinators for not being able to make HIS offense work successfully at the college level consistently, through his players under the bus by claiming that the coaches did their job but the individual failed to execute, put a team on the court that lacks fundamental discipline, and in his coaching debut mis-manage his timeouts and the time clock against Colorado and lose the game for his team that busts their asses and trusts that he is a leader that would never lead them to failure. I can see shity coaching in his first year at the helm, but not showing any signs of making adjustments and lacking the ability to become a better coach, I can’t see how you would even compare the two.

Our basketball team has lost their first game to a top ten team. Not a Utah team that was starting a freshman quarterback for his first start. Or getting embarrased consistently over the past 5 years by teams that we have no business losing to. We are a national basketball powerhouse with two consecutive final four appearances and most likely another one this year, and YOU are comparing that to the football program?! YOU have got to be out of your mind son! cut it out! seriously, stop it.

and by the way, the first paragraph doesn’t even list the deficiencies, records and facts that bloggers like Diego and the other regulars have layed out specific statistics that expose KD’s horrible track record over the last five years.

Dumpjoe.com

Joe have you been sitting around anxiously awaiting for eight games so you could make that little quip? Two point loss to a top ten squads happen, in fact I could live with fifteen losses in a row by Howland, and still give him four more seasons for it to even be comparable.

pooponjoe.com

While I am a big Mooch supporter, and have met the man on more than one occassion and like him personally, Peterson to me has the background, skills, and potential desire to rebuild / build the UCLA program in much the same way he built Boise State. DG should take a hard look at Peterson, who also is likely looking for his next plateau target professionally.

Always a Bruin!

One thing T.J. Simers said that I 100% agree with:

“The next guy always looks better,”

Yes, Dorrell must be fired, but I’m not dancing in the streets,and I won’t be until I see progress ON THE PLAYING FIELD not simply by bringing in a new coach that’s hot right now. Happy for change, YES! But my emotions aren’t ruling my judgment in the matter.

bruinz50,

DAN HAWKINS BUILT BOISE STATE, Not Peterson. Peterson has kept the ball rolling but clearly it was Hawkins who built that program from 2000 -thru- 2005.

i cancelled my LA Times subscription of many, many years last week because of the Streeter “editorial”. You can read my blog at my myspace url—crabbyoldlawyer@myspace.com (i think)
i was walking picket lines to integrate employment back when Streeter was in diapers. I worked at the EEOC back when he was still wearing diapers–though he was probably in elementary school. (my JD is UCLA ‘71)
But, as far as TJ Simers goes, your site is in good company. As his readers know, he hates most of his own family. Given his DNA, he has good cause.

I truly believe that Simers wants KD here so USC can continue to make UCLA a punching bag on the way to big bowl games. THEY DON’T WANT US TO BE GOOD. WOULDN’T WE WANT A LOSER OVER THERE?

STEVE

Bill Doba blamed the internet and sites like this one for losing his job at Washington State. The fans who took the time to care about their program went out on their own and put pressure on the school that the media cant or wont.

For decades the print media has called the shots, so to speak, on who stays and who goes. Back in the glory days, 1 disgruntled columnist could start a groundswell of support for or against anything they wanted with little or no recourse for those who might oppose them. That is no longer the case, and it scares the hell out of people like Simers.

Scout.com has UCLA ranked #5 in best recruiting classes for 2008, after Notre Dame, Georgia, USC and FSU.

TJ Simers is the biggest hypocrite. He is criticizing DD for ripping on KD while Simers, in one of his first columns on Dorrell, called him “Dullard” and ripped him 10X worse than DD ever has, making it a personal attack on Dorrell.

Simers just wants to be controversial and will take any side that suits him to achieve that. He is a headline whore, that’s all.

And his column is unintelligible and unreadable most of the time, with his attempts to be clever and creative, but in actuality his writing is disjointed and chaotic.

Perhaps there should be a DumpSimers.com site, LOL!

drbob

On ESPN.com this morning:
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3138961
UCLA reportedly searching for new head coach
ESPN.com news services

Updated: December 3, 2007, 8:11 AM ET
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Karl Dorrell is expected to be out as UCLA coach as early as Monday, a person close to the situation told ESPN’s Joe Schad on Sunday.

A short list of candidates has been assembled, sources familiar with the athletic department told The Los Angeles Times on Sunday.

Defensive coordinator DeWayne Walker could be considered for the potential opening, according to Schad. Walker is also a candidate for the Washington State opening.

The Los Angeles Times is reporting that Boise State coach Chris Petersen is said to be the first choice of athletic director Dan Guerrero, with Texas Tech coach Mike Leach and former NFL coach Steve Mariucci considered among the other top candidates. Representatives on behalf of the UCLA athletic department have contacted all three, multiple sources said.

The Bruins (6-6, 5-4) entered the season with 20 returning starters and high expectations. Erratic play caused at least in part by injuries to several key players including quarterbacks Ben Olson and Patrick Cowan short-circuited their hopes.

Dorrell was given a one-year extension last February to put him under contract through the 2011 season, but Guerrero said several weeks ago he’d evaluate the program at season’s end.

Dorrell declined to comment on his job status after UCLA’s 24-7 loss to then No. 8 USC on Saturday, but senior defensive end Bruce Davis had plenty to say on his coach’s behalf.

“He wasn’t the one that couldn’t execute, he didn’t go out there and miss tackles, he didn’t cause turnovers,” Davis said. “I don’t want to see him go. I’ll always be indebted to him. Off the field, every time I’ve needed him, he’s been there for me and my family.”

Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.

I quit reading the LA Times (or Daily Trojan, more appropriately) years ago when it really turned into a “fishwrap.” Does anybody remember Jim Murray? What would he think about the current crop of “journalists” they have there now - Simers, Streeter? Seems like Simers will say anything to get people to read his drivel - same with Streeter, trying to make race into an issue with Karl Dorrell, when even Dorrell says it’s not an issue at UCLA. The LA Times really has fallen to the level of the supermarket tabloids - just print anything to get people to buy the paper, don’t worry about facts or reality. That’s why it’s a “fishwrap.” That’s all it’s good for, that and linning the birdcage.

As to the next coach, I really like Paul Johnson of Navy and then Chris Petersen. I’m not a Mooch fan. I want somebody who will make a committment to the program. Johnson is a program reviver and a winner, Mooch isn’t.

Is Mooch supposed to be the answer to our prayers, the NFL guy who can stand up to Pom Pom Pete? If that’s the case, then we’ll need to start a ‘GetRidOfGuerrero’ website ASAP.

Petersen was the brains behind Koetter and Hawkins in Boise, and the Boise people always knew it. He is better than either of them. He is the best possible choice for UCLA, though I would certainly take Mariucci as well.

Funny, when I think of Petersen’s trick plays against Oklahoma, I think of Bob Toledo.

Leach is a proven winner in a big time conference; how about Mike Price, George O’Leary? Peterson has great potential.

Dammit! People are still talking about the 10-2 2005? The article says, “if 10-2 isn’t good enough nowadays…” like he went 10-2 this year. How dishonest!

How about 25-25, the record for Dorrell’s other four seasons? No that is not good enough.

And let’s not forget the 2 losses in 2005 were embarrassing, humiliating losses, including a 47-point loss to USC? No, 47 point losses are not good enough nowadays!

Coach Pete would be crazy to take the UCLA job! Why would he want to move his family to Los Angeles? The hussle and bussle of Lost Angels can be overwhelming. Plus I would hate to see him endure the harsh and sometimes cruel L.A. critics. If he does take the job, I believe he will have much better success than the other BSU coaches who have moved on (Koetter, Nutt, Hawkins). As a former BSU football player and lifetime UCLA fan, I am in a win/win situation!

FRONT PAGE LA TIMES!!!

I can’t believe it’s OVER!!!

PRAISE GOD!! LAVIN PART 2 IS GONE!!

LET THE HEALING BEGIN!!

It’s over !

Someone screen capture the front page of the LAT website ASAP … neither of us are at a computer that allow us to do it. Please screen capture and contact us via our contact page and we will give you our email so that you can email us the pic. Thank you.

“IT HAS been a brutal ride at times for Dorrell, who was given little chance to be successful at UCLA from the day he was hired by Guerrero without having the benefit of any previous head-coaching experience.”

Hahahahah, apparently it’s Guerrero’s fault that he hired Dorrell to begin with. So I guess he ought to give Dorrell a couple more years, after all it was his poor planning to hire an unproven head coach. Hahahahahah

Oh and here is the latimes.com image: http://img217.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dorrellft2.png

No Mariucci!

This media guy belongs on NFLN!

I am in the midst of having a war of words with TJ Simers via email. I called him out yesterday before this article was posted on DD. He is pretty arrogant in his hatred for everyone associated with this site. If anyone would like access to the emails, let me know.

Of course TJ’s upset: he’s been exposed as the dubious, flip-flopping charlatan that he is. However, personally I’ll always be grateful to him for introducing me to dumpdorrell.com.

Scott … send us your email address via our contact page.

I agree strongly with those who credit the DD site for ending this nightmare. It’s too bad for this to happen to an alum, but KD was just not ready for such a position as head coach. DG admitted he took a chance 5 years ago, and it didn’t work, and he wants to remedy that. I honestly didn’t think he would do it. Now let’s get a good coach and put the football program up with basketball and the overall excellence expected from anything or anybody that wears the colors and letters of UCLA!!!! GooooBruins!

Re: Simers, Brent hits the nail on the head. Mainstream journalists, and “tinsel-town” ones in particular, are terrified that everyday folks in the blue collar world can collectively articulate persuasive thought as an after-hours hobby, as well as and often faster than those in the profession.

In case any of you missed it, Simers’ piece was posted about the same time fellow LAT sportswriter Bill Plaschke posted his article “Progress was rarely seen in Dorrell era, much like the coach” - which as I read it, was an abridged version of the arguments made on this site.

Picture the scene late Sunday - the LAT Sports staff finally sees the writing on the wall and refuses to be scooped by a rogue group of fans on the internet. Plaschke gets the assignment (or volunteers) to explain Dorrell’s demise without reference to this or any other site - but to be “fair and balanced”, or more likely to provide an “out” in case Guerrero decided to retain Dorrell for another year, someone had to write the counterpoint. Streeter already tried… so Simers got the tasker.

Back to my/Brent’s original point - Simers is far more concerned with his future and that of his profession than he is for any blue-and-gold coach. If you need any more evidence of his nature, check out his series during the week prior to the USC-Nebraska game, in which he managed to insult nearly the entire state.

For Drbob, I haven’t found a site but I did find a petition to get him fired:
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/FireTJSimers/signatures-4.html
as well as these kind words:
http://blogs.jsonline.com/fishoutofwater/archive/2007/09/17/needling-nebraskans.aspx
http://blog.thoene.net/?p=11

Bottom line - don’t waste any more brain cells on this “writer”; and if just looking at his mug irks you follow Tommy Bruin’s example and pull the plug on your subscription.

Best to all from Hokie country, where Michael Vick is still the topic of conversation…

DD–Bravo!! You guys are awesome. I can just see TJ in a frenzy, drueling, hammering on his keyboard, e-mailing and arguing with DD posters. LOL!! Get some rest TJ–the job’s done. Like Arnold, UCLA football WILL BE BACK!!