Dump Dorrell

December 1, 2007

Ha!! NOW Dorrell Says He Would Scrap WCO!!!!

What a riot!!!  This just keeps getting better by the day!   Well, we are in Hollywood.  According to Robert Kuwada of the OC Register, Karl Dorrell, after losing to SuC to notch his 4th .500 season in 5 years and knowing that he is about to lose his job entirely, NOW says he is ready to scrap the WCO!!  WOW.  We could not make this stuff up.  If there ever was a case study in what NOT to do as a first time head coach, Karl Dorrell would be the case.

Also, Kuwada is reporting that Dan Guerrero said after the game that he will make a decision regarding Dorrell "during the week."  Folks, if Dorrell were going to be the coach next year, WE WOULD KNOW ABOUT IT NOW.  Dorrell is gone.  It's over. Kuwada:

The West Coast offense that Coach Karl Dorrell brought to UCLA could be on its way out — whether or not the Bruins' coach is back for a sixth season in 2008.

After UCLA generated only 168 yards of total offense in a 24-7 loss to No. 8 USC on Saturday at the Coliseum, Dorrell said that he was amenable to scrapping his offense and starting anew with a different system in order to generate more total yards and more points.

"Whatever it takes for us to be more productive," Dorrell said.

Ok. Thanks for the suggestion Karl.  We will let the new coach decide. And again … no presser of Karl Dorrell's would be complete without Mr. "I make no excuses, I take all the blame" throwing another player under the bus (Jeff Miller, OCR):

Afterward, Mr. Nice Guy wasn't afraid to publicly blame Taylor, noting in particular that it sure wasn't the coaches' fault.  "We had a great call on," Dorrell said. "We were in the right place. Christian Taylor didn't make the play."

True, yes, but hardly becoming for someone in a profession that routinely bristles when the media singles out players to fault.

Taylor, to our knowledge, didn't throw Dorrell under the bus … maybe Dorrell should learn from his players.  Ted Miller talks like a Bruin (maybe he is)!  Read his entire piece it has some great stuff. He even takes a jab at race-baiting tabloid "journalist" Kurt Streeter:

Some people will want to make this about race because that's the simple way out, the way to obscure a practical, logically based decision in one of the most explosive of emotions.  See, it's the easiest way to rile up people like you. Introducing race is a columnist's classic ploy. Black and white always reads more colorfully.

Sorry, but Dorrell could be cardinal and gold and it wouldn't matter. Have to be more realistic than that. What should occur next is a coach who happens to be black getting fired by an athletic director who happens to be Hispanic. Period.

Well put Ted!!  This is great stuff.  Finally, Kuwada adds that boosters have contacted the Mooch, Leach, AND … wait for it … Neuheisel:

boosters already have made contact with potential replacements, including Texas Tech coach Mike Leach.  It is not known if the boosters were acting independently or as intermediaries of the UCLA Athletic Department. Contact also might already have been made with former Cal and San Francisco 49ers coach Steve Mariucci and former UCLA quarterback Rick Neuheisel, who is the offensive coordinator for the Baltimore Ravens.

More tomorrow.

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33 Comments on Ha!! NOW Dorrell Says He Would Scrap WCO!!!!

December 2, 2007

LA_Eagle786 @ 12:33 am:

F KD

A coach’s job is to never blame the players and always carry the load. Taylor has been a part of the anchor of the defense for over 2 years know, and this is how KD sends him off?

F you KD you classless piece of scum. Taylor’s done more than you have you incompetent POS

MarcoTheBruin @ 12:49 am:

Dohn mentions the same names in his article, but adds Peterson and says that there is a group of alums pushing for D. Walker.
http://www.dailynews.com/ucla/ci_7613820

James Washington did his part to give the argument for Walker during the FSN postgame show.

Finally the ‘Times has the yin and yang of KD obituaries:
Plaschke: ‘Progress was rarely seen in Dorrell era, much like the coach’
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-plaschke2dec02,1,4171277.column?coll=la-headlines-sports
Simer’s ‘Dorrell stays upbeat after perhaps last day on job’
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-simers2dec02,1,1307253.story?coll=la-headlines-sports

Speaking of obits. DD, now that the end is near, have you thought what your final post might be? I still can’t believe that the Utah game really happened…

DumpDorrell @ 12:51 am:

Marco … we have some ideas. But our last post wont come until after the bowl game and until after we have a new coach in place. There is much more to be done. Probably our last post will be just after the New Year. A final farewell of sorts to welcome a new era.

Bluebruin (Aka Diego) @ 12:54 am:

LMAO!!!! @ I’m open to anything that would make us more productive. Okay, this is just becoming comedy now. Of course columnist will write plenty of excuses, adn will spread more stupidity.

After the game, there were people being interviewed. Some Bruins said that we have the #4 class coming in next season and that if we fire KD, we’ll lose that. HOW STUPID!!!

Yet another fan and news guy was going around saying that we should fire Belotti too, for losing without his starting QB. AMAZINGLY stupid! Some people are truly, truly dumb. It pains me to see members of our media be so lacking in analytical skills. I don’t know how a sportscaster, who has followed UCLA for several years, truly say something like that?

Oregon Pre-injuries= One of the best offenses, if not the best, in the nation. Heisman Trophy Candidate. Victories over Michigan and USC. top-5 ranked team.

Belotti pre-Dixon injury: Finished a season ranked #2 in 2002. Developed top notch NFL talent. Won multiple 10 game seasons. Has been part of the BCS and has pac-10 titles.

UCLA Pre-injuries at QB this year= One of the best offenses in the…. oh wait! No, we couldn’t move the ball against teams. We were having penalties stiffle drives, due to the complex west coast offense. We were throwing picks, miscommunicating and oh yeah, there’s that UTAH thing.

KD pre-qb injuries this season. Let’s see… hmmm 3 prior seasons at .500. Losses to Arizona in a blow out, the worst FSU team since any of us here were alive (I hope there aren’t any AARP members that will prove me wrong on line right now) FRESNO STATE in a bowl game, someone named Wyoming in some bowl played somwhere in a southwest location and embarrassing losses to our Rival.

Let’s be nice, though. He did have some signature wins during his 4 years. In the 4 years before he beat USC in ‘06, and he beat… that’s right he beat that one team… wait! That’s it! He beat USC in ‘06. He can’t take credit for Oregon last week. If he’s asking us to grant him clemency on not having a QB by suggesting that wasn’t really UCLA, then he can’t claim the victory over Oregon.

So, how do injuries explain the above???? How do injuries to Bell, Cowan, Olson THIS YEAR excuse the above? Here’s how: They don’t! It only occurs in the minds of the simpletons that dont’ know how to think for themselves and follow what the columnists in this city write and in the minds of those that are short-sighted, lazy, or mentally inadequate to see beyond the silly comment that injuries caused KD to be mediocre.

bruinhoo @ 1:05 am:

Not that KD should be calling out any of his players, but given his effort over the past 3 seasons, Christian Taylor is the last person on this team that Dorrell should be throwing under the bus. Maybe Christian can look back at this moment and find some solace in being the last person that Dorrell throws under a bus.

Bluebruin (Aka Diego) @ 1:05 am:

By the way, WHO THE FOOOOOOOK!!!! are these Alumni that are pushing for D Walker? I want to see them! I want to meet them! I want to make sure that I jot down their names and graduation years so that I can go to University records and expunge them from database. I cannot have someone like that dilute the integrity of my degree from UCLA.

If these people visit this forum, please identify yourselves. If any of these people are reading this right now, then please answer how it is you feel that D Walker, a man that has ZEROOOOOOOOO coaching experience, is in ANY WAY a viable replacement for a man who just failed due to the fact he was a coach with ZERO coaching experience??

How, rather, WHY!!!!!!!!?:?????? are you pushing DW as an option.

Your logic is baffling, at best. Please explain it to all of us as if we were 6 year olds.

Tommy Bruin @ 1:13 am:

Doofus really is a classless piece of crap. Why not be a man and take some responsibility instead of blaming Christian Taylor? “We had the right call on”- if they did, it would have been the first time all season.

Him saying he’ll scrap his worthless offense after 5 years of failure when he’s on the verge of being fired is funny.

“Whatever it takes for us to be more productive,” Dorrell said.

That will start with your worthless ass being fired. Good riddance.

DumpDorrell @ 1:15 am:

Diego … its not UCLA grads that are pushing Walker, although some are following (and that is the point for those pushing him). It’s Walker’s agent, with the help of his lackeys, who is trying make some more money for himself via his client. This is an organized effort. We are not the only website operators who have noticed and commented on the obvious organized effort publicly. BN and BRO have also noted the same.

UCLA-100-NCAA @ 2:42 am:

Dorrell should go. Great guy? I’m sure he is. I’m sure he will have future success sometime with some other program. I waited to commit to dumping Dorrell till the end of the season. Now that he has lost to our rival I would normally urge patience and not to make too hasty a move to fire him…

But when Petey gives a ringing endorsement of Dorrell, you know it is time for him to move on.

Think that bastard wants our school to have success? You have to be seriously deluded to think that. And don’t give me any BS about how the Poodle is just saying that to get us to fire Dorrell either. Petey would love for us to keep Dorrell around so that he and his shitty little university can beat us year after year.

The time has come gentlemen: We need a coach who will educate and inspire. One that will teach smash-mouth football so that when those cardinal prophylactics play us, they will know it is going to be a knock-down, drag-out fight to the finish every down, every game.

I grow tired of having to listen to their fair-weather fans shout stupid shit at me when I wear my university’s colors out on the town. My university, with the most NCAA championships… For the love of God, did any of these people go to $C? It’s time to shut them up for good and make them fear us in football.

I urge you all to write the mayor of L.A. or whoever about getting a pro football team here. This will diminish the number of their bandwagon fans.

Secondly, I urge you to write the NCAA and tell them what a joke of an institution they are for not doing anything about Reggie Bush getting 300K when he played.

Lastly, I urge you to write Dan Guerrero and tell him to choose a coach that will bring us victory. I don’t think that Rick Neuheisel is the answer.

bruin95 @ 2:47 am:

Calling out lawman…

Mike Tevaga @ 3:26 am:

Dorrell has five years head coaching experience and is still failing to date. I don’t think his experience (or lack of) has anything to do with his ability to lead our program. You do realize that he has twice as much experience as Chris Peterson right? Chris Peterson craps on Dorrell. As does Dewayne Walker.

You either have what it takes or you don’t. Dewayne Walker has it. He leads and motivates from a secondary position more than Dorrell does in his primary position, he fights and wins the tough recruiting battles (the battles Dorrell was afraid to even attempt to fight), and - in my opinion - has the mind of a developing defensive genius. The inadequacies of our offense over the course of the last two years put him in a situation designed for failure - yet hes survived and, to an extent, even succeeded. The Trojans had the ball almost twice as long as we did today.

He doesn’t have the head coaching experience and so hes not my first choice. I just don’t think its that crazy to consider him as I think he is going to make a fantastic head coach for someone someday. I’d be very, very, worried about what he could do at a school like Arizona if Stoops was to fail (again) next year and finally get canned.

Gary @ 7:11 am:

AFTER FREESING MY ASS OFF SITTING IN THE SH*TTY SEATS THAT THE CONDOMS GIVE US BRUIN SEASON TICKET HOLDER….I CAME UP WITH A NEW SONG…THIS IS MY NEW SONG AFTER LOSING TO THE CONDOMS………..

NA NA NA NA

NA NA NA NA

DORRR RELLLL

BYE BYE…..

A MAN OF COLOR GOT IN MY FACE AND SAID…”OH, SO YOU ARE THE BETTER COACH” TO WHICH I REPLIED, “NO SIR, I AM NOT, I WISH I WERE, THESE PLAYERS BUST THEIR ASSES AND DESERVE BETTER. BUT SOMEONE HAS T BE ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE LOSES TO THE UTAHS, ARIZONAS AND “WINLESS” NOTRE DAMES OF THE WORLD…AND THAT MAN IS KARL DUMBELL.”

STEVE MARIUCCI…..IF YOU ARE LISTENING..GET YOUR ITALIAN ASS TO WESTWOOD……………MERRY CHRISTMAS

Gary @ 7:12 am:

CORRECTION…MAKE THAT “FREEZING” MY ASS OFF….

DORRR REELLLLL

BYE BYE

Gary @ 7:16 am:

BLUE BRUIN..(DIEGO) JUST READ YOUR RANT…

YOU ROCK!!!

Emmaco @ 7:23 am:

Sad to see such a fine program in such complete disarray. I remember last year’s win over USC- the day after you couldn’t go anywhere in the Southland without seeing brand spanking new UCLA sweatshirts. They looked like they’d been hidden in a closet for years unworn.

Last year’s victory may have glossed over some serious long term issues that have yet to be addressed.

Let’s face it- USC has improved its academics and its football dramatically over the last ten years and UCLA has not.

Maybe it’s the state budget, but I sense that UCLA’s issues on the playing field are reflective of a much bigger issue that isn’t Karl Dorrell’s fault. Firing him may be a wonderful placebo, but won’t fix the problem any more than Ted Tollner’s canning at ‘SC years ago.

You don’t see UCLA’s assistant coaches matriculating to the NFL or head coaching jobs elsewhere. You don’t see top prospects going to Westwood much anymore either. You don’t see many players being courted by the NFL. You certainly don’t hear commentators and pundits saying much positive.

Let’s face it- UCLA has a loser’s attitude right now.

bruinz50 @ 8:04 am:

Well LAT would-be writer TJ Simers is at it again but fortunately he is writing KD’s obit this morning. Interesting where TJ gets his statistics … clearly he is not a math major … proclaiming that KD & Co. had amassed a 12-1 record after three seasons. I seem to recall one 10-1 season before a bowl loss in-between a couple of .500 and .600 seasons. As long as TJ keeps KD on his holiday card list and doesn’t teach my kids math in schools I guess I am ok with him spouting rubbish in his column.

Rick ('96 Alum) @ 8:33 am:

Let’s learn from our mistakes:

1. No Walker. He seems to be a very good DC, but no HC experience. If he had a couple of more years of proven results under his belt, I would certainly be inclined to go with him.

2. No Neuheisel. Don’t need ethical issues again. Also, was he really all that impressive in his last couple of jobs?

3. No Mooch. He demonstrated that he lacks the ability to build a team from scratch (eg the Lions). We need a program builder. Had some sucess with the 49ers, but only when he had a talented team (think Garcia and TO). Also, he reminds me too much of Lavin.

4. Not convinced on June Jones.

5. Maybe Leach. I’m concerned we will be like the Bruins under Toledo - great offense, no defense. Maybe things would be different with the combo of Leach at HC and Walker at DC.

6. I like Chris Petersen because he gets the most out of his guys and is creative. Let’s face it, with all the players SC gets from paying their guys, we don’t get the top guys in LA. We need a coach that can implement a system that works with lesser talent. With success, our recruiting will obviously improve. Clearly, a chicken and the egg scenario.

I don’t know enough about other potential candidates to comment fairly. I just know that we shouldn’t even consider #s 1-4 above.

jeff @ 9:58 am:

How about Bill Cowher? Never say never. NO on Walker; his claim to fame is the USC upset. It was a fluke.

BruinOC @ 10:03 am:

Remember - We need to ahve the ability to remind Dan Guerrero that when he signed Dorrell to a contract for $600,000 a year (per SI.com), DG was quoted:
“We could have brought in a big name for $2 million,” UCLA athletic director Dan Guerrero said at the time. “But there are no guarantees. So I went with my gut.”
Ok, the gut didn’t work - it’s time to go after the ‘big fish’…

Go Bruins!!!

Andy @ 10:24 am:

From TJ Siemers today

“Check out a website called DumpDorrell.com. It’s loaded with such garbage, the kind of one-sided thinking that if accurate in reflecting how people really think today, we’ve all lost it.”

DumpSiemers.com

Bruce Nagy @ 10:30 am:

I looked at Pat Cowan limping off the field after another crushing sack…pulled hamstring, strained knee ligament, collapsed lung….playing like a WARRIOR…being chased and smashed into the ground by Ellis, Jackson etc.

I read that Brandon Breazell couldn’t even dress himself after the game because of the crushing hit he took from Malaluga…cause he had to catch one of those damn “dink and dunk” passes in amongest two linebackers and a 225 safety…..

I know KD is a good and honorable man….but as I stood there in the cold watching those two fine young men giving it all they had and taking such a terrible beating I didn’t know whether to be mad or sad.

Whoever coaches next year, I sure hope he doesn’t put the Bruin players in that position again.

Javier @ 10:30 am:

I know everybody here is almost sure that DG is going to fire KD. But we all know that their might be a long shot that DG might keep KD for one more year as long as KD removes the WCO. But I don’t know if DG wants another year of scrutiny.

Bruce Nagy @ 10:35 am:

I looked at Pat Cowan limping off the field after another crushing sack…pulled hamstring, strained knee ligament, collapsed lung….playing like a WARRIOR…being chased and smashed into the ground by Ellis, Jackson etc.

I read that Brandon Breazell couldn’t even dress himself after the game because of the crushing hit he took from Malaluga…cause he had to catch one of those damn “dink and dunk” passes in amongest two linebackers and a 225 safety.

It was very difficult to watch…didn’t know if I should be mad or sad. The guys do play hard….hopefully those efforts and new leadership will lead to a Top 20 program.

Tustin Bruin @ 10:40 am:

This shows you how much TJ Simers knows about sports. His show on KLAC radio was terrible, he was so gutless he wouldn’t take calls from the general public. I refused to listen to his garbage and had to turn to another sports station.

Bruce Nagy @ 10:43 am:

Sorry….my e-mail went through twice, but while I’m here…..regarding TJ Simers…..he is one of the most cynical, nasty curmudgeons in the history of LA and SD sportswriting. The sad thing is he doesn’t realize that he’s written far more personal, insulting and devastasting things around coaches and athletes that any of us could ever write. About three games into KD’s first season he became known as “Coach Dullard” by Simers….course TJ, you were just be funny, weren’t you?

Scott @ 11:01 am:

May not have to worry about Walker being the next head coach, according to the LA Times he has been contacted by Washington State and is on their short list of replacements for Doba…

whp '68 @ 11:25 am:

..when Toledo was let go five years ago, a lot of surfaced about his tenure. I am not sure what was true or what was false, but I sure didn’t think anything he did was worth firing him prior to a bowl game.

On the other hand, anything they can do to Dorrell to get his ass out of that plush job he’s has so poorly done is appropriate in my mind. At least with Toledo you didn’t hear any blame and excuses.

It will be interesting to see what turds float to the surface after Dorrell is gone.

Brewnz @ 12:31 pm:

Worst game I had to witness as a bruin, no passion. Hopefully this marks the end.

I think TJ and Karl are alike:

>From: Hugo Dominguez
>To: t.j.simers@latimes.com
>Sent: Sun Dec 02 09:39:55 2007
>Subject: Re: Dorrell stays upbeat

It sure is. That’s why I read your column every once in a while…

—–Original Message—–>From: “Simers, T.J.”
>Sent: Dec 2, 2007 9:41 AM
>To: hdominguez@ucla.edu
>>Subject: Re: Dorrell stays upbeat
>
>Always nice to hear from the clueless
>
>—– Original Message —–
>From: Hugo Dominguez
>To: t.j.simers@latimes.com
>Sent: Sun Dec 02 09:39:55 2007
>Subject: Re: Dorrell stays upbeat
>
>
>
>You lost me somewhere in the middle of this piece of >garbage you call writing,yeah, garbage–you call others’ >writing(blogs) garbage, we can call yours as well.
>
>It’s not his race, it’s not that he is a nice guy, although >I doubt this claim as Karl tends to blame others for his >ineptness, like his ever changing assistants and worst off, >his very own players.
>
>It comes down to wins and loses, and your tired arguments >in favor of Karl have little if any bearing on the field >performance of Karl’s teams, which is best characterized as >pathetic, with sorry on-field discipline, play calling, >time management, etc, etc…, you know this story.
>
>I say we dump you, along with that other LA Times dude that >called me a racist, Steet something or other: >dumptjsimers.com
>
>Hugo Dominguez
>UCLA 82

BoBruin88 @ 12:55 pm:

I took Dorrell 5 years to figure out that he should scrap the WCO? Too late! There are many other problems he would still have to fix in order to turn this ship around, and in any case, I have absolutely no faith in him. Maybe if last year he had scrapped the WCO, changed his scheme for play-calling entirely, developed the ability to inspire his players, and the balls to get in the refs’ faces when I can see from tunnel 19 row 72 at the rose bowl that they made a bad call, and if we won the game we should have won like a less talented utah, beatable WSU and Arizona programs, an ASU that only beat us by 4 points, and hell, USC didn’t dominate us. The only reason they got to 24 points was the fact that our Defense was on the field too long and was bound to get tired and make mistakes. And there is no excuse for losing to the worst Notre Dame team in history. But that is not the case so for Dorrell, his career at UCLA is over.

Bawb the Revelator @ 1:11 pm:

Fine post, Bruce Nagy. My hunch is comedian T.J. Slimeball keeps his job by incriminating JEdgar-style Files on LAT higher-ups. T.J.’s a worthless, throbbing carbuncle on journalism’s neck.

Dorrell? Don’t tie the UCLA-football can to KD entirely. Former A.D.-cum-Wuss Petey Dalis is your man. Petey allowed BSing Terry Donahue to invent the Consecutive-Years-In-Some-Bowl-Game statistic to justify his WASTING decades of, arguably, the nation’s BEST blue-chippers! Then Petey gave us “The Lavin Years.” Fine, KD isn’t Red Sanders but he’s NOT Osama Bin Lavin either. KD was never even a Co-Ordinator and was hired on the (relatively) cheap. He’s done his OJT. I’d prefer to let KD recruit and for A.D. DaN Guererro show stability and courage.
But the sharks and hacks like T. J. Slimeball aren’t likely to let it happen.

alx324 @ 11:59 pm:

Please get off the mooch band wagon. The west coast offense doesnt work! thats the offense he would be bringing to ucla. Rick Neuheisal is a recruiting violation waiting to happen, just look what he did to the husky program and colorado. Dewayne Walker while he doesn’t have coaching experience did a phenominal job coaching the defense and they were the sole reason ucla were in a lot of games including the usc game. now if they’re not going to hire him Dan Guererro should insist that whoever is the next head coach keep him. As far as canidates the list should include: Norm Chow, Chris Peterson and why not Sarkaisian the offensive cordinator for usc. As far t.j simers aka squidward do what I do just ignore him. thats one part of the sports page I don’t read.

December 4, 2007

Steve G. @ 1:14 am:

NO SARKISIAN, NO NORM CHOW, NO LANE KIFFIN, NO PETERSEN.THE FIRST THREE ARE TROJANS-SCREW THOSE GUYS.KEEP DWAYNE WALKER AND INTERVIEW SEVERAL COACHES, WE NEED A LEADER A MOTIVATER SOMEBODY WITH SOME FIRE. THE BOTTOM LINE IS THEY ALL HAVE JOBS ALREADY.ONLY HALF THE PROBLEM IS SOLVED BY DUMPING DORRELL.

Bluebruin (Aka Diego) @ 9:00 am:

Steve G- I just want to clear something: Are you supporting Dwayne Walker as a candidate?

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