November 24, 2007
Gameday Oregon: Karl Dorrell’s Last Home Game As Coach??
Vegas is the best place to watch a football game. There is nothing like being at a Sports book watching the full 60 minutes of a game long since over at 44-10 but everyone is still watching for that last field goal to beat the spread. But there is something bitter about today's gameday. Today might be, hopefully will be, Karl Dorrell's final game at home as coach of our Bruins. Too much to say about that and there isn't enough time. Today we are fighting for bowl eligibility and at least a .500 record to end the season, THE season. That about says it all.
It's horrible that 25 seniors are walking out onto the Rose Bowl field for likely their last time (we still have an outside chance of winning the Pac-10 and playing in the Rose Bow game), having lost all the promise they had when they first walked down Bruin Walk and onto Spaulding Field. We all had great dreams for this group of seniors this year. The entire nation expected more. It is a sad legacy they share with Karl Dorrell, but they deserve our standing ovation for their play for our alma mater. Even if we lose today, the Rose Bowl should be standing tall for this group of seniors.
But we expect our Bruins to win today. There are many reasons for this, the most obvious being that Leaf is at QB for the Ducks. He is mistake prone and more importantly he limits Oregon's daunting spread offense that DC DeWayne Walker simply does not have an answer for. Last year Oregon jumped out to a huge 21-0 lead in the first quarter of our game up north. Oregon cruised the rest of the way. Oregon won't jump out to such a great lead today. Leaf can't run the same offense the great Denis Dixon does. Bellotti has to simplify the offense, make it more pro-style, for Leaf. And that plays right into Walker's only defensive strength.
Our Bruins will also be playing with a chip on their shoulders, being stung by all the recent talk nationally about replacements for Dorrell, in addition to it being Senior Day. It's sad that our 25 seniors are playing for bowl eligibility and a .500 season but that is what we get with Dorrell. In the end, it's always about our Bruins winning. Go Bruins!!



















48 Comments on Gameday Oregon: Karl Dorrell’s Last Home Game As Coach??
November 24, 2007
Nick @ 1:00 pm:
if we beay ore and usc, and asu loses to ua, we would share the pac-10 title w/usc, asu, & the winner of the ore vs. osu game, right?
Nick @ 1:01 pm:
if we beat ore and usc, and asu loses to ua, we would share the pac-10 title w/usc, asu, & the winner of the ore vs. osu game, right?
Javier @ 1:07 pm:
30 minutes to the start of the game. Lets go Bruins!!!
Peter @ 3:09 pm:
Why for God sake isnt Dumbass playing olsen. If he is sutied up and ready for action put his ass in and see what happens. Ossar is terrible and we cant let our D get all our points. PUT HIM IN DUMBASS
Leonard Feebowitz @ 3:39 pm:
And little green men will come down and invade the earth…
We at USC Nation love Dorrell as he has sytematically destroyed your program. I find the irony unbearable as he was only hired because of the color of his skin, and now he claims that is why he will be fired. Pete Carroll has had the same amount of time at the helm, and any person, Bruin or Trojan, with a pulse can see the disparity between the two. Your AD should go as well for hiring an assistant coach and allowing him to get paid for on-the-job training.
Your school should prepare for a lawsuit as KD will not take responsibility for anything and will be citing racial discrimination. Too bad for the players; his ineptness will reverberate for years and when he is long gone they will be the ones still paying the price.
Leonard Feebowitz @ 5:06 pm:
Great job, Bruins!! With your domination of the Ducks, you accomplished a few things:
1. Gave Oregon their 3rd loss;
2. Set USC up to win another Pac-10 title;
3. Possibly prepetuated the stench of KD and your football program.
Maybe the students can sue Dorrell and the AD for KD’s salary since he is just an assistant collecting a head coach’s paycheck. Thanks again and good luck this Saturday against the Trojans; it will be sad to see Dorrell go…
Diego @ 5:52 pm:
We won, and that’s always good. The issue is, people are going to see that we won this in a legitmate manner: We did not! LEt’s stress that even though Olson came into the game in the second half, the offense was still a disaster. This is the point we’ve all been making with respect to injuries. The offense was/is STILL NOT CLICKING; with or without starters playing. Today we had Ben and Markey back. Still, the best they were able to muster was a FG despite having OUTSTANDING Field position and additional possessions, thanks to the interception by Oregon’s third string QB. I know that there was a rushing TD, but that was the end of the game, after yet another turnover. The game was over at that point. I laughed when KD said that Ben entered and gave the offense a spark. PLEASE!! A spark. What sort of spark!? WE went from gaining no yards on our possessions to gaining 9? What’s the use in that? How’s that giving us a spark? Sure, that’s a spark, but not enough to light a fight, which is the ultimate goal!
Anyone, writers included, that take this victory as a step foward is either intellectually challenged or is too bias to realize things.
StumblingCat @ 5:55 pm:
Wow Bruin fans, you won and you lost at the same time. You’ll certainly lose by maybe 50 to USC, I’d take that to the bank. But you really lose because it looks like Guerrero will bring Dorrell back. The rest of the Pac-10 says thank you Dan, for keeping the bruins mediocre. We can all circle the UCLA game as a game we all have a chance to win. Unlike the USC game, which most of us circle as a loss.
KDoofus @ 6:37 pm:
That is contradictory StumblingCat. A 50 point loss to SUC will get KD fired. You can’t have it both ways. He could be fired even without the 50 point loss, because the best he can do is 7-5. While that might b acceptable at Arizona, it is not at UCLA.
Louis Miranda @ 6:48 pm:
As a long time fan who finds it disgusting to have to root against my favorite team in college football; ( I Hate Dorrell for putting me in this position) I”am so disapointed Ucla managed to win this game. As a bowl eligible team we fans are now done make no mistake about it. This loser of a coach just guaranteed him self at least another year and if he beats SC he will definetly contaminate the program for another 4 years until his gol dang contract expires. No matter what happens against SC we are stuck with this mother %^^@f**cken loser for another year. This indeed is a sad day for Ucla football. It should be a happy day, but remember what I said a long time ago about Ucla football– good is bad, and bad is good. Whatever we are basically fu**ed as fans.
Louis Miranda @ 6:53 pm:
Diego and Wayne Cutler the voices of reason; Please give me an old time fan running out of time and the rest of our great fans, including of course you 2 gentleman a reason to go on as fans of this losing and hopeless void called Ucla football. Please! Even a lie will do at this time!
Louis Miranda @ 7:04 pm:
Streeter, Simers and all you pussy race baiting asssholes fu*k you. You got what you wanted an asshole coach at ucla to stay for another year. I would like to meet you guys anywhere and kick your asses. Simers you are a fuc*e^ hypocrite who needs his ass kicked and Streeter,
foster etc. NAME THE PLACE MOTHERFUC%%RS! i’LL KICK YOUR ASS MYSELF YOU PUSSIES for purposely contaminating are football program thru the LA times. Fuc* You!
BruinFan @ 7:30 pm:
I’m sick!!! I take issue with Diego, a win is not always good. This is a time when a loss would have been better. Dorrell has lucked out and saved his job regardless if the Trojans kick our ass next week. THAT IS EXPECTED and that’s what I hate! And believe me, Carroll is too smart of a coach to let his team let down against the Bruins 2 years in a row.
It will be a blood bath but we will still have KD and his “great recruiting class” to use as his excuse next year for going 2-10. As for the KD lover that mentioned Weiss and Willingham….give me a break!! You should be ashamed for mentioning them in the same context as KD. Until he’s gone I’m through with Bruin football. I’m a slow learner. It’s taken me 40 years to realize my friends were right..UCLA is a basketball school.
Louis Miranda @ 7:31 pm:
Standing tall for these under-achieving hate to practice hard seniors who never accomplished anything. They are almost as much to blame as their idiot coach. I’m glad they are leaving and I hope they take their stench with them!
Louis Miranda @ 7:37 pm:
Bruin fan I definetely know how you feel. I respect Diego and he is very knowlegable but this victory just secured a-hole Borehell another year of mediocrity. I feel it is probably time after 42 years to forget about ucla ever being significant in football in my lifetime and I admit it has me as bitter as I have ever been as a fan in any sport.
BuckeyeBruin @ 8:26 pm:
I don’t see how the win today means Guerrero won’t fire Dorell. That was a horrible, pathetic game. Oregon beat themselves by having no quarterback–the Bruin offense was a nightmare. I’m surprised the UCLA and Oregon punters didn’t pass out from exhaustion.
After getting thumped by USC next week, it’ll be off to the Emerald Bowl or wherever for another loss to a bad team. When all is said and done I don’t see how Guerrero can make a case for keeping Dorrell.
john @ 9:15 pm:
why are you guys assuming this win bought dorrell another year? i don’t think it’s enough, but just to be sure, i e-mailed DG (politely of course) to let him know how i feel. i hope everyone here does the same.
Daryl @ 9:22 pm:
We were 10 year season ticket holders and I was actually infuriated that we won. What an odd feeling to root against your team. Apparently I’m not alone.
crewman @ 10:29 pm:
This is a bit of a sad day….
1. KD pulled a Lavin to hold onto his job for another year;
2. UCLA unwittingly just put USC into the Rose Bowl but knocking out Oregon;
3. I’m actually thinking of betting a large sum of money against UCLA next week. Never thought I’d do that.
Anyway….Go Bruins, Beat SC (or at least score a touchdown next week)…whatever…
GoBruins @ 10:31 pm:
You expected UCLA to win because we were playing against a team that had a backup quarterback playing. But you also expected UCLA to win when we were playing our backup quarterback against Arizona and Washington State. Do you see the double standard?
crewman @ 10:34 pm:
Oh - one more thing: let’s not use injuries as an excuse. Do you remember 1992 when walk-on John Barnes, the fifth string QB for UCLA, lead the unranked Bruins (5-5) to a 38-37 win over 15th ranked USC. Is there ANYONE who thinks that KD has what it takes to inspire his 1st or 3rd string quarterback to do that???
Wayne M. Cutler @ 10:44 pm:
Whatever happens next week, DG should still fire KD. If he doesn’t, the UCLA Chancellor should fire DG’s ass. Sorry to say, the only hope for UCLA is to lose to USC and whatever bowl game they play in.
crewman @ 10:50 pm:
Last comment - next week will NOT be a blowout. That would be too easy and merciful on us Bruin fans. UCLA will keep it close and give Bruin fans false hope toward the 4th quarter…then, mark my words…it will be 4th and 1 on the Bruin 39…KD will elect to punt…it will go in the end zone for a touchback….SC’s offense will get back to the Bruin 39 in one play and promptly score thereafter for the game winner…a dagger goes into the heart of each Bruin faithful. Well, it will give us something specific to bitch about on this board the next day. Any other predictions???
tobe @ 11:11 pm:
this game was disgusting, i was bored, and even the ppl i was texting constantly throughout the game to keep them updated even said “sounds like an ‘exciting’ game” or “you must be bored.” and the worse part about this game was that we won because the oregon offense was just worse than ours. Look at our drives, 4 plays/-5 yards, 7 plays/14 yards, 4 plays/6 yards, and our “scoring drive” 4 plays/31 yards. An ugly game to watch and fans behind me in sec 20 were yelling everytime we got the ball “kick the field goal Karl, get the sure 3 pts.” I really hope we don’t get destroyed next but i don’t see it playing out any other way, especially the last two times dorrel “lead” the bruins into the rose bowl. Btw, NOTRE DAME BEAT STANFORD, WTF!!! Damn you karl
Scott @ 11:29 pm:
We were chanting for Duh-rell to take the knees and kick the field goals as well. Such a pathetic game! Easily the worst game I have witnessed in 15 years as a season ticket holder. The crowd even seems to know that the teams sucks and fails to execute, no exuberance at all. 40 frickin yards in the first half with 0 passing yards!?!?!? -2 yards after the first quarter!?!? This is what we get with two weeks to prepare!?!? WTF!?!?!?
I can only hope that DG pulls his bald head out and fires Duh-rell as he should be REGARDLESS of what happens next weekend and whatever meaningless piddly-ass bowl game this UNDESERVING team may go to…
Daryl @ 11:57 pm:
Did anyone sees KD’s comments after the game (on espn.com)
“We were going to win this game. There was no question in our mind. We played smart and made critical plays when we needed to make them.”
We played smart? we made Critical plays? uh, lets be honest, with as many gifts the Ducks handed to us, it was impossible not to capitalize….Imagine if Forbath was as bad as the rest of the team. It would have been 3-0
November 25, 2007
Reason @ 12:06 am:
Hey GoBruins, talk to me when one of our quarterbacks is a Heisman candidate and single handedly makes our offense tick and then come back and talk about “double standards”.
Leonard Feebowitz @ 3:55 am:
Maybe after your Chancellor wises up and cans Guererro along with Dorrell, they both can go in on an expensive attorney and sue for discrimination (or hire Al Sharpton/Jesse Jackson’s marketking arm). KD & ADG can afford it, all of the money they bilked. Nice, classy way to pay back a school they defrauded by pretending to be a real AD and head coach, respectively. Hopefully Dorrell will step down, pay back the money he owes and take a job coaching receivers at Hart High School (if they would take him).
My brother graudated from fucla in 1991 and now I know why he gave up his season tickets last year. That should tell your Chancellor something when alumni are bailing on your football program. Fight On! –Lon Feebowitz
Javier @ 7:39 am:
Wow! How bad was Oregon. Oregon’s offense could not move the ball against the Bruins defense. And even though the Bruins defense was doing their job the offense was once again struggling to make a first down. It’s not so much that KD is a bad coach. (Which obviously can be argue other wise.) It’s the O.C. Jay Norvell play calling that is killing the Bruins. A lot of the play calling could be question.
It all comes down to the head coach. Karl is allowing the plays to be called and ran on the field. Karl is listening to the play calling on the head set. It is beyond my imagination why UCLA did what they did. After the defense makes a big play. Either forcing a fumble, recovering a fumble or intercepting the ball. The first thing that you want to do is run a play that will push the ball downfield. You want to attack the defense. What does Jay do? He runs a running play over and over again.
I thought we were done being conservative with the play calling. I might understand not pushing it with Ossar who was struggling passing the ball. But once Ben was in the game; you have to open up the offense. Even the TV announcers were in shock when UCLA would run the ball on every single first down after a change of possession.
That game should of been a blowout but once again the play calling was awful! I am gald that UCLA won. And I know that a lot of people (which would include UCLA fans, which is sad) are predicting a blow out win for USC. But I expect a motivate Bruin team on the field and will chock every one by beating USC. That is my personal feeling. As I remember; UCLA was also expected to lose in last year game. We will see. I do hope the UCLA’s offense play calling gets more aggressive. Go Bruins!
starman @ 8:22 am:
Question? Will Mike Belloti be on the “Hot Seat” if the Ducks finish 8-5 or will it be considered a tough luck year because they lost their quarterback? I think we all know the answer to that one.
Question? Will Karl Dorrell get fired if he does not win out? or will the loss of most of his skill players be considered.
I am not a big KD fan but I am a huge UCLA fan! I wanted to fire KD after every lack luster bowl game. I wanted to fire KD after the Utah game. I wanted to #&@! after the Notre Dame game. I have come to the realization that it is not KD that is the biggest problem it is the “Slappy” assistant coaches he has on staff. I propose we keep KD and at minimum fire Norvell! His play calling is horrible, he looks unorganized (get up in the box and off the sidelines!), and he is running a system that takes professionals years to perfect. If KD has to go so be it. If he stays, he has to surround himself with better coaches.
Javier @ 8:55 am:
Here is an article by Steve Dilbeck from LA Daily News:
Dorrell had a 10-2 season in 2004, but in his other four seasons has a combined record of 25-24. Five years is a long time to build a program. Five years offer naked numbers. Five years should tell who you are as a coach. And slipping into another fourth-rate bowl game is not what UCLA is supposed to be about.
Dorrell, who had never been a head coach until hired by Guerrero, tried to place a positive spin on Saturday’s result. He called it a “rewarding” and “courageous” and a “great team” performance. “Our team was ready to play,” he said. “We were going to win this game. There was no question in my mind. “It didn’t matter how it looked, but we were going to do it in a way that was important for us to get a victory.”
UCLA wasn’t much better. Dorrell again started Osaar Rasshan at quarterback, and it wasn’t pretty. Rasshan failed to complete a pass in seven first-half attempts. He was sacked four times. He looked like a quarterback the Bruins had converted to receiver. Rasshan is supposed to be a more mobile, running quarterback. Yet despite UCLA now having three weeks to put in packages to take advantage of his skills, Rasshan never rolled out, never ran any options.
At the half, Dorrell had seen enough and went to Ben Olson. Olson had missed the past four games with a knee injury, but had been deemed recovered enough this week to be the backup. That’s a curious evaluation, determining your best quarterback can play, is healthy enough to start the second half but not the game? Dorrell said Olson had not taken enough reps during the week. “I never considered starting him,” he said. “That was never part of the scenario. We were hoping he’d be available if needed in this football game.” He was needed from the opening snap, yet he sat until the second half.
The Bruins won because of turnovers. They started at the Oregon 32, 29, 17 and 23 after four turnovers, and netted three field goals out of it. Freshman kicker Kai Forbath was their biggest offensive weapon.
Meanwhile, Dorrell may have to defeat USC to keep his job. Guerrero is watching, as his purposeful comments made clear. “The intent was not to light a fire or to bring pressure,” Guerrero said. “They’re pros. They understand.” If so, they understand more than Guerrero is saying.
starman @ 8:56 am:
It is disgruntling to read many of your comments regarding the win against Oregon! How can you call yourself a fan of UCLA when you root against them (regardless of how pathetic the coaching is)!?! Oregon put an inferior product on the field and thankfully our defense was able to step up and get it done! Maybe you need to go down the street and root for those other guys.
Javier @ 9:06 am:
You will never read that I root against the Bruins. I just like to povide info of what the media is writing.
Javier @ 9:23 am:
Here is an article by paul.oberjuerge@sbsun.com from LA Daily news. This was a funny article to read. I hope you enjoy it.
Man, was that ugly. Cover-your-face, get-the-blindfolds, please-gouge-out-my-eyes ugly. So ugly that the five guys who tried to play quarterback were a combined 15-for-56 passing for 169 yards, five interceptions and no touchdowns. (Rex Grossman, move over.)
So why was Karl Dorrell smiling? Because UCLA’s coach had the slightly less-mangy dog in this hunt, and his Bruins defeated laughably inept Oregon 16-0 Saturday in a Pacific-10 Conference game at the Rose Bowl. Making UCLA bowl-eligible for the eighth consecutive year, which allows the Bruins to visit someplace exotic next month. Like Fort Worth or maybe El Paso.
This was a game only a Bruin’s mother could love. Inept execution, poor preparation, ridiculous play-calling and a bad team defeating a worse one. But UCLA on top!
Dorrell wasn’t prepared to throw it back. Not with his job on the line. “It was a great team performance,” he said, unable to contain a smile. “We played smart and made critical plays when we needed to make them.” Well, yeah. Critical plays being catching the interceptions Oregon’s three quarterbacks were throwing. Or covering the fumble Oregon’s quarterback coughed up. Or at least making sure that, while its offense was going nowhere, it at least didn’t give the ball away in its own half of the field.
It was a great performance if you admire punts (22, 12 by the Ducks), sacks (10, five by each team), passes aimed at no one (too many to count) and running backs struggling to get back to the line of scrimmage. UCLA “rolled up” 220 yards, and by the end puffed up its per-play gain all the way to 3.2. Move over, Tom Brady.
UCLA ran out Osaar Rasshan at QB without bothering to install any offense for the good-run/bad-throw backup.
An epic, 31-yard UCLA touchdown drive clinched it with 5:29 to play, and we went looking for pictures of Medusa to see if she really were more unattractive than this dog’s breakfast we were looking at for almost four hours. The good news being, most of UCLA’s coaches and players seem to be nice people, and 20 years from now this will be the shutout they pitched in 2007’s last home game. The one Dorrell described as a “courageous effort.” And it certainly was for all of those who had to watch it.
WHP '68 @ 9:38 am:
Further media attention from Randy Youngman in the OC Register this morning:
“Saturday was a bad day for the DumpDorrell.com supporters, but the UCLA Bruins 16-0 victory against injury-depleted Oregon probably didn’t save save Karl Dorrell’s job.
“But what if UCLA upsets USC on Saturday at {sic] Coliseum? Would that buy Dorrell another year?
“No, neither possibility seems likely, but how many of you thought the 13-9 upset of the Trojans last season was possible?
“And how many of you thought Stanford was capable of knocking USC earlier this season. That stunner might wind up costing USC a berth in the BCS title game.
“Even Charlie Weis’s team [Notre Dame] beat Stanford.”
As a further comment, I am still amazed at the Dorrellistas’ comments above. Most here are pretty fair. saying that they are at least torn over a UCLA victory. The whole point is that the football team this year (and, arguably, for the past five years) has been mis-handled, mis-directed, and mis-managed. Dorrell has squandered opportunities and talent that many mid-level coaches with a modicum of talent could have done wonders with. UCLA football fans have had an extraordinary amount of patience with him; they deserve, if they choose, to root for whomever they like. If Dorrell’s firing eventuates and a good coach is appointed, you will not see anyone espousing these sentiments, I am sure. Posters like Javier and Diego love UCLA too much to tolerate the depths of mediocrity that the football program has sunk into.
..let’s only hope that Dan Guerrero feels the same way.
Jim @ 9:43 am:
I wonder what the national television audience thinks about the potent Pac Ten after seeing that circus. What a disgrace. The only good thing to come out of it was that it shouldn’t help KD to keep his job. But what if we beat sc and go to the rose bowl. I have never rooted for sc so it’s going to be very frustrating next saturday for me. God help me.
Leonard Feebowitz @ 11:29 am:
Your school is paying Dorrell how much to learn how to coach?? Anyone with a lick of business sense would have cut their ‘losses’ long ago and brought in somebody with a clue. Another wonderful case for affirmitive action; why it doesn’t work in business, the medical profession, and now glaringly obvious that it does not work when you need a professional to lead your football team to victory. It was a racial experiment Guererro played with your school, the student body and those poor dumb bastard recruits who bought the lies, and all of you will continue to suffer. Not from a lack of talent, but a lack of genuine concern for a once-mighty football program that was feared in the Pac-10.
The pathetic offensive showing yesterday, albeit enough to win, just left the coffin open a crack; Pete Carroll and the Trojans will not repeat last year’s fluke and will drive the final, double-digit dagger into a head coaching career that should have been dead three years ago.
The funny part is there is an outside chance that the Bruins can go to the Rose Bowl… What a sad representation of the Pac-10 if that happens!
Another Steve @ 11:42 am:
Almost crewman. It’ll be 4th and 1 against U$C in the 4th quarter, but the call will be a low percentage pass play, never attempted in practice, from Ossar or Bethel-Thompson to a newly-inserted end who hasn’t caught one all season.
Al. B. @ 12:59 pm:
Again, I’m not a Karl Dorrell supporter, but I also won’t allow myself to be blinded by emotion. Here’s the bottom line for me with regards to this season: the loss to Utah was a disgrace (although Utah turned out to be a quality team) and the loss to Notre Dame was an aberration. Enough has been said about our team’s embarrassing performance against the Utes. At this point I don’t believe anything constructive can be added to the conversation. However, if we look at the Notre Dame game and its aftermath objectively, then one of the arguments against Dorrell is exposed as possibly a fallacy. Here’s the deal, compare the Notre Dame game with the Oregon game head on. Look at the total points scored. Check out the total yards, first downs, pace of the game, etc. But before I continue I want to make it clear that I’m not a “Dorrellista” or “Duhrell” lover, I’m a realist and a Bruin. So the fact of the matter is that an elite team in the Pac 10 playing its 4th string quarterback (walk-on or scholarship)will not be able to generate any offense and the mistakes will lead to points for the other team (obvious, right?). Against ND we had 4 interceptions and a fumble, yesterday Oregon had 3 picks and a fumble. Just like ND with great field position we were able to score a few points, in other words our defense put us in a position to score. I remember that after the ND game , we all lit up the “internets” and am570 with our disgust over not having a package for Rasshan ready. Now, obviously KD is no coaching genius but it looks like he was right about Osaar. The kid couldn’t hit a car tire from 5 yards. As Wayne Cook said on the Joe McDonald show, Rasshan looked terrible in practice before the was converted to WR.
Reading yesterday’s and today’s posts, I’ve come to the conclusions (sadly I’m starting to see Streeter’s view) that 1. our expectations this year were almost delusional 2. even with a new coach we won’t become a powerhouse overnight (look at Cal, they’ve been building a program for 5 years and they offer all the same advantages to recruits we offer, ie, weather, location, academic prestige). 3.we need a new coach but as a Bruin, I wont sell my soul to the devil (or SuC for that matter)and root against my Bruins. 4. If you root against us because we’re mediocre, then get a new team just like all the Dodgers fans who have been on the Yankee bandwagon for years now. 5. Our program will survive. I was at the game yesterday and I saw plenty of inner city ballers doing the a-clap. shit, at some point we need to start bringing in some of those LB Poly boys. it’ll happen.
One last thing: stop acting like bitches and cheer on the Bruins, period.
Al. B. @ 3:05 pm:
Again, I’m not a Karl Dorrell supporter, but I also won’t allow myself to be blinded by emotion. Here’s the bottom line for me with regards to this season: the loss to Utah was a disgrace (although Utah turned out to be a quality team) and the loss to Notre Dame was an aberration. Enough has been said about our team’s embarrassing performance against the Utes. At this point I don’t believe anything constructive can be added to the conversation. However, if we look at the Notre Dame game and its aftermath objectively, then one of the arguments against Dorrell is exposed as possibly a fallacy. Here’s the deal, compare the Notre Dame game with the Oregon game head on. Look at the total points scored. Check out the total yards, first downs, pace of the game, etc. But before I continue I want to make it clear that I’m not a “Dorrellista” or “Duhrell” lover, I’m a realist and a Bruin. So the fact of the matter is that an elite team in the Pac 10 playing its 4th string quarterback (walk-on or scholarship)will not be able to generate any offense and end up giving away the game. Against ND we had 4 interceptions and a fumble, yesterday Oregon had 3 picks and a fumble. Just like ND with great field position we were able to score a few points, in other words our defense put us in a position to score. I remember that after the ND game, we all lit up the “internets” and am570 with our disgust over not having a package for Rasshan ready. Now, obviously KD is no coaching genius but it looks like he was right about Osaar. The kid couldn’t hit a car tire from 5 yards. As Wayne Cook said on the Joe McDonald show, Rasshan looked terrible in practice before the was converted to WR. Finally, few would argue that Dorrell is a better coach than Bellotti, but how many points did Bellotti put up under the same circumstances as Dorrell? Bellotti failed with all 3 back-ups, I’m starting to think the same would have happened in the ND game and Rasshan would have been punked even if a package had been available for him.
Reading yesterday’s and today’s posts, I’ve come to the conclusions (sadly I’m starting to see Streeter’s view) that 1. our expectations this year were almost delusional 2. even with a new coach we won’t become a powerhouse overnight (look at Cal, they’ve been building a program for 5 years and they offer all the same advantages to recruits we offer, ie, weather, location, academic prestige). 3.we need a new coach but as a Bruin, I wont sell my soul to the devil (or SuC for that matter)and root against my Bruins. 4. If you root against us because we’re mediocre, then get a new team just like all the Dodgers fans who have been on the Yankee bandwagon for years now. 5. Our program will survive. I was at the game yesterday and I saw plenty of inner city ballers doing the a-clap. At some point we need to start bringing in some of those LB Poly boys; it’ll happen.
Go Bruins!
Louis Miranda @ 3:13 pm:
For those of you who still think Dorrell will keep his job if he beats SC;don’t worry about that he already kept his job when he beat Oregon and became eligible for the Outhouse Bowl pitting 6-6 teams. The program has gone the opposite direction Guerrero intended when he hired Dorrell. I’m not a Bob Toledo fan, but I’m sure he would have done better in 5 years than Dorrell. Why did they even bother to fire Toledo if they were not going to replace him with a real coach instead of some affirmative action hire?
BuckeyeBruin @ 4:45 pm:
Painful realities–knowing we’re going to get slaughtered by USC next week (6 points won’t cut it); gloating, spoiled USC fans, e.g. Feebowitz, posting here in slithering, sneering triumph. What goes around comes around…
Leonard Feebowitz @ 5:37 pm:
It has not always been the case (gloating, spoiled, etc.), if you would look back five-plus years ago.
The difference I see right now between your football team and the pain I suffered for years under Coach Tollner, Hackett, and Coach Smith, is that Mike Garrett was smart enough to pull the plug on those losers before they permanently destroyed the tradition at the University of South Central.
Your AD is too proud and ignorant to realize his folly for hiring a zero and it will take a merciless beat-down from the Men of Troy to bring Guerrero out of the clouds and a new leader to right the ship of your football program. –Lon
Jim @ 6:08 pm:
I commend you usc Leonard for your opinions about our football program. Fight on Leonard.
Al. B @ 8:43 pm:
Leonard is a fraud, a double agent. How do I know this? First off, no Trojan would call SuC the University of South Central in a public forum. At a party on 28th maybe, but never in a public forum. Secondly and most convincingly, this clown has a short memory and true Trojans never forget. I remember when Mike Garrett was the most hated man at “Troy. Of course the guy had his supporters in the administration and some in Trojan nation would forgive him murder (yes, that’s a blatant OJ reference)since he won SuC’s first Heisman. Anyway, don’t give too much props to Garrett. The guy got lucky with PC. For proof, just look at Robinson’s second tenure.
BruinSince1968 @ 9:50 pm:
Al. B. — c’mon, if you’re a Bruin — you should know this: it’s called an “8-Clap”
LawrenceSFBruin @ 10:55 pm:
I just hope to God that UCLA beats DIRT SC, aka O.J.U., aka $uC. So what if it does happen, what if lightning strikes twice? We’ll go to some unknown Bowl Game; lose to some sad team; end up 7-6; and IDIOT GUERRERO will give Dip—t Dorrell a 5 year extension [to justify his “Circumvention of PROP 209 Hire-Dorrell” (Louis Miranda @3:13 P.M. is dead right)].
“History repeats itself as both tragedy and farce.”
- Karl Marx- (He got one thing right.)
UCLA excercise the NEBRASKA OPTION: 1)Fire the unqualified A.D., 2)hire a beloved former coach as interim A.D., i.e. Dick Vermeil, and 3)then fire the UNQUALIFIED Head Coach who has destroyed the football program.
Diego @ 11:10 pm:
Louis and Others distraught over the Bruin victory. It is a conflicted mind we all share, but it’s far too difficult to cheer against the Bruins during their final home game. These are college kids who, for the most part, have been mislead by coaches who could not help them. I was there for them; no different than anti-war supporters supporting the troops, but not Bush’s policies.
That aside, I think we should relax. This victory over Oregon was about as fictitious as a win can be. Let’s use the evidence at hand: DG isn’t going to make final judgments on one game. He has told us that already. He’s not waiting for a major victory to make his decision. HE’s also not waiting for a major loss to make his decision. At this point, I believe DG is looking for reasons that could make us keep Dorrell. This victory over Oregon isn’t a reason. DG’s a very intelligent guy, and you can see his tempered response after the game. HE’s not a geek, like the rest of our administration. He played baseball at UCLA, so he has a feel for what’s a legitimate victory and what isn’t.
I outlined for many of you the details surrounding KD’s hire. It was a different time and there were separate issues that had to be reconciled at teh time, namely the Bball hiring. Dg was in no position to compromise the bball hiring by crossing then Chancellor Carnasale. Things are quite different now, so I trust DG. He has come out in opposition to KD. Let’s be intelligent about this; he told the media that he would be paying attention to how the team performs to end the season.
That quote is clear. He isn’t speaking about wins/losses, he’s talking about how the team plays, what the coaches are trying to do, and how the team responds to that. What we saw Saturday was MORE of the same. It was more of the same mediocrity and unimaginative play. Saturday did nothing to keep KD. If it had, we would’ve seen more newspaper articles suggesting that it had, but there were none. There were none, becasue not even the dorrellistas in the media could claim Saturday’s win as a positive move for keeping KD.