Dump Dorrell

November 20, 2007

Kurt Streeter’s Fiery Response

The fire over LAT Kurt Streeter's race-baiting tabloid hit piece on UCLA and Bruin Nation continues to rage on.  This time the flames come from Streeter himself. The internets are not happy with his column and Dorrell's comments and the pressure is showing on both Streeter and Karl Dorrell.  Yesterday, Dorrell apologized to a DumpDorrell reader (and Daily Bruin ad contributor) for Dorrell's destructive quote in Streeter's LAT article, explaining it away as taken out of context.  Yesterday evening, Kurt Streeter himself responded to another DD reader (and Daily Bruin ad contributor) in a less apologetic fashion.  In fact, he got a little hot headed.

Read the email correspondence below for yourself.  It's clear Kurt Streeter is hurt by the backlash and probably doesn't even really understand it.  His response is thoughtless and uninformed at it's most basic.  It's shocking, truly, the manner in which Dorrell's supporters such as Streeter are acting out now to save his job.  

We saw how Don Morrison, a professor of marketing at UCLA and a Morgan Center liaison, recently lashed out unprofessionally and inappropriately at a DD reader who asked him simple questions regarding his public duty and Karl Dorrell.  We saw how Bob Keisser of the LB Press Telegram and Daily News did a complete 180 on Dorrell and wrote a sad race-baiting piece in defense of Dorrell.  We saw how "Duhrell" phrase creator TJ Simers did a complete 180 recently as well and wrote a full piece pleading UCLA to keep Dorrell another year.  Ah how Keisser and Simers cling to the political winds.  Other articles by somewhat discredited Brian Dohn of Daily News, and some quack at the OC Register trying to make a name for himself, add to the bizarre political charade organized on Dorrell's behalf. 

These are professionals acting in a professional capacity who can't seem to keep their reason, ethics or emotions in check when it comes to Dorrell.  It's not about UCLA football anymore for Dorrell's campaigners in the press, and it hasn't been for some time (none of them are UCLA grads, oddly).  For us UCLA grads it has ALWAYS been about UCLA football and NOTHING more.  So have a read and tell us who gets it and who looks more reasonable here, DD reader Diego or LAT columnist Kurt Streeter (edited for privacy, emphasis made by author):  

     From: Streeter, Kurt [mailto:Kurt.StreeterATlatimes com]
    Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 3:36 PM
    To: Diego —-
    Subject: RE:

    

Oh yeah, race. You're right, race has no part in this. None. Matter of fact, race is not a problem in the United States and never has been. And after all, race was the entire point of the column. I mean, it was all about race, from the very first line. Race, race, race. The whole thing — all of it was an excuse for Dorrell because Dorrell is black. I mean, just look at the what that nasty Kurt Streeter wrote: I'm convinced that race plays a role in what some of you critics are saying. To think otherwise would be plain foolish. Some of you just don't know what to make of a coach who does not fit into your convenient stereotypes. Unbelievable. He thinks some of the critics just might have a hard time accepting Dorrell. Some of them just don't know what to make of him. Oh, that just hurts so bad I can't stomach it. I mean, he wrote that all of this is is about race, didn't he? He said all of us are racist, right? Streeter should be ashamed. I need a good cliché for what he did…lemme see…uh, how about this? "He played the race card." Yes, that is highly original and I think I will write to tell him that. Oh, that mean Kurt Streeter, he should be so embarrassed. I mean, doesn't he know what a football powerhouse UCLA has always been? They won their last national title just yesterday, in 1954, and since then it's been nothing but 10 win seasons until that Karl Dorrell got his hands on the program. Any coach with a lesser record should be tossed straight off the Santa Monica Pier. Fed to the sharks! Now look at the Bruins. 7 wins. 6 wins…yeah, I know, there's one 10 win season there but that was all luck. Just pure luck. It had nothing to do with coaching. Those comebacks were a sign of terrible coaching because the Bruins should never be behind in the first place. But those losses, those losses had everything to do with coaching. EVERYTHING. And then there's that injury thing. What a weak excuse. I mean, good God, any coach worth his salt can figure out how to win with third stringers and walk-ons. Oh, you want proof?  Just look at SC and how they whupped up on Stanford this year…oh…wait, maybe not. Ok, didn't you see what Oregon did against Arizona? The second best team in all of the land marches into Tucson, loses their starting quarterback and voila…uh, oh, wait, they got pummeled? Oh, never mind. But I still think injuries play no part in this.         Why that Karl Dorrell is the worst coach in history and Kurt Streeter is defending him. He should be embarrassed.        

        Kurt Streeter
        Columnist
        Los Angeles Times
        202 West First St.
        Los Angeles, Ca. 90012
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        —–Original Message—–
        From: Diego —-

        Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 2:23 PM       

        To: Streeter, Kurt
        Subject: RE:

        I’m sorry, but I don’t carry the embarrassment.  That is done entirely by your unsubstantiated claims, your obtuse perspective and your irresponsible playing of the race card.  I understand that Karl Dorrell walked in to your trap, but setting that trap bares a lack of ethics.   I suppose you’ve achieved your goal:  To take a contrarian position in an effort to attract readership.  I didn’t realize you were this lacking in attention. Clearly, though, your position is unfounded.  Further, you may have just advanced our position with regards to firing Dorrell.  You see, his integrity is about all that he has proven sound at UCLA. Playing the race card by saying he hasn’t been given a fair shake after 5 !!!! years of opportunity is damning to his integrity.
      
        Thank you for helping advance his termination

        

        From: Streeter, Kurt [mailto:Kurt.StreeterAT latimes com]
        Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 1:50 PM
        To: Diego —
        Subject: RE:

        

        I'm sorry you are embarrassed. That's really too bad.

        
        Kurt Streeter
        Columnist
        Los Angeles Times
        202 West First St.
        Los Angeles, Ca. 90012
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            —–Original Message—–
            From: Diego 

            Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 1:38 PM           

            To: Kurt.StreeterAT latimescom           

            Subject:

            To say that your column was embarrassing, is to say the best that can possibly be said. 

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30 Comments on Kurt Streeter’s Fiery Response

November 20, 2007

Brewnz @ 8:11 am:

Wow! Perfect Diego, you captured the ravings of a lunatic, Mr. Hyde, someone dispossessed of his faculty and reasoning, my grandson’s tantrums come to mind. A response wasn’t even necessary, Kurt’s diatribe stands all by itself for all to see.

Pat Maginnis @ 8:20 am:

Time to start recruiting a real football coach not a caretaker. We should have had Osaar ready from game # 1. He is a great quarterback. He oould have helped in the WSU, ASU, Hotre Dame, Utah, and Arizona games if KD had been a real coach who had perspective. I suggest we start talking to Mangione at KU, Norm Chow at Tennessee who has coached four Heisman winners, and is the greatest offensive mind in the US, along with Bob Stoops at OU, and Mike Leach at Texas Tech. UCLA needs two things to become a football and not just a basketball powerhouse— a good head coach (I still love Bob Toledo; he was one game away in 1998 at Miami when he was robbed on an imaginery fumble by a nitwit Big East official who ran the width of the field to overrule the offical on the spot) and a campus stadium. We should seek both now.

UCLA717274 @ 10:29 am:

My email to Kurt Streeter and his response.

To say that I am incensed over your column in defense of Karl Dorrell is an understatement. I have just two words to say to you: Steve Lavin. Coach Dorrell, like Lavin, had only an assistant coaching background, and was not yet ready to assume the responsibility of being the head coach a program the caliber of UCLA. If Dorrell had been white, he would be long gone—and expecting lower standards from a black coach is an especially insidious form of racism. Shame on you!

I have two other words: Ben Howland. This is the caliber of coach that Dan Guerrero should have hired for football. Coach Howland has restored integrity and discipline to the basketball program, taking his team to both the Final Four and the semifinals during his tenure. Restoring integrity is one thing, but it is not mutually exclusive with discipline and winning.

Race has nothing to do with this—it is simply an issue of competence. While you are certainly entitled to your opinion on Dorrell’s performance (with which I strongly disagree), shame on you for making this about race. This may come as a surprise to someone who sees the world through race-colored glasses, but people of all races can be incompetent. Being color-blind means that you don’t judge anybody negatively because of race, nor do you bend over backwards to judge him/her positively because of race, and play the race card when someone disagrees with you! There are plenty of issues to debate on Dorrell’s performance, and race has nothing to do with ANY of them.

Response:

Read my response to the post column reaction, much of it way overheated, as I guess I should have expected, on the blog. And you’re right, race just could never have anything to do with anything in this color blind world of ours. Particularly in Los Angeles, which has never had a race problem and certainly doesn’t now. Most particularly in West LA.

Kurt Streeter
Los Angeles Times

Diego @ 12:01 pm:

Minutes ago I sent my response to Kurt Streeter. I couldn’t allow that email to go unchallenged. this is my response. It’s quite long. I didnt intend it to be long, but it turned out that way.

WOW! I can only say WOW! To me, this is about a coaching change, but to you this is clearly more. It appears that your journalistic objectivity has been surrendered on this one. I do commend you, though, for holding steadfastly to your opinion. Most columnists would’ve responded with the short sentence you initially did, and that would’ve been it. I see, however, that this is a stance you truly feel and I like that!

After reading your response, I see that there are two great points of deviation between you and me, and the entire Bruin Nation for that matter. Logic, better yet, your illogical perspective, is actually the cause of that deviation.

The way you arrive at the deduction that race has a heavy part in this issue is alarming. Here’s your logic: There’s racism in America; Karl Dorrell is Black; Some people out there hate black people; therefore, Karl Dorrell’s removal has something to do with the overall race problem in the country. There are so many things incredibly wrong with that deduction that I don’t know where to begin, so I won’t. It suffice to say that you’ve clearly taken a complicated issue and trivialized it by suggesting that racism wide openly exists in EVERY SITUATION where a black person is involved. Therein lays the irresponsibility and the embarrassment in your article. As a journalist, you already know that once you introduce race into an article, you’ve made it entirely about race. Also, the fashion in which you finish your article with the race issue tells us that your strongest argument is the race issue. Any good writer finishes his/her piece with the strongest possible argument; yours appears to be race. You blithely cite other factors as you delve deeper into the race issue. I, unlike you, would like to deal with the hard evidence that’s before us: KD’s performance. I won’t be lazy and dismiss it all to the existence of some racist out there who might want KD gone, because he’s black. I realized, though, that there’s reason why you didn’t delve into the other factors. You see, you don’t know UCLA. It’s shameful that an LA Times sports columnists doesn’t bother studying an L.A. area sports team.

The heat on Karl Dorrell is coming in his 5th year, not his first years, as would be consistent with firing him because he is black. All any of us have ever wanted was victories. That has proven consistent. After three years of futility, there were grumblings by Bruin fans, but then we were treated to a 10 win season. Despite being embarrassed by USC and Arizona in unceremonious fashion, most of us, if not all of us, felt UCLA (read Dorrell) had finally turned the corner. What transpired next was a return to offensive futility, poor preparation, miscues and the same mediocre outcomes that had defined KD’s early years. NOBODY liked that; HOWEVER, everything was cleared when he beat USC. Beating USC showed us something; it showed us that like the 2005, UCLA had turned the corner. After that came another EMBARRASSING showing against Florida State which left all of us scratching our head (players included). STILL, people backed Dorrell, because he was going into his 5th year, his players had been in the system for 3 – 4 complete years and he was returning so much talent. What happened this year? The “it” year! You say injuries, but saying that tells me that you didn’t really pay attention to this season OR PREVIOUS seasons. Before the injuries, the team wasn’t clicking. The offense was still anemic, the defense was overrated and inconsistency once again reigned. Anyone that cites injuries as a reason to keep KD is either a non-Bruin fan, short-sighted in focus or educationally deficient. If KD had won Pac-10 titles, had taken his teams to the BCS and had finished in the top-10, you think we would not grant him clemency and understanding for the injuries? OF COURSE WE WOULD! That’s why this isn’t about injuries; it’s about the continued level of inconsistency he has displayed whether it be in a study of his entire 5 year tenure or a single season study. You can see inconsistencies and inexplicable errors at the macro and micro levels, but you’ve stopped at the race issue and haven’t gone beyond.

Injuries:

What a weak excuse. I mean, good God, any coach worth his salt can figure out how to win with third stringers and walk-ons. Oh, you want proof? Just look at SC and how they whupped up on Stanford this year…oh…wait, maybe not. Ok, didn’t you see what Oregon did against Arizona?

Since you’re limited in scope, I will help you. You needn’t go to USC and Oregon as examples when you have an example with UCLA: The Utah game. Since you’re not a UCLA fan and since your paper is likely too busy writing pieces on USC, you failed to realize this;

The Utes are off to their worst start in seven years. Injuries have knocked out three starters for the season and two others, including quarterback Brian Johnson, won’t be available Saturday.

“This is not what any of us expected, and this wasn’t the situation we expected to be in,” Utah coach Kyle Whittingham said. “There’s no magic fairy that’s going to come down, tap us on the head, and make everything right again. We have to fight our way out of this.”

The Utes have been shorthanded all season because of the injuries. Johnson separated his right shoulder in the season opener and won’t return until next week against UNLV at the earliest.

Defensive lineman Gabe Long (knee) also won’t play Saturday. Running back Matt Asiata, receiver Brent Casteel (knee) and offensive lineman Jason Boone (knee) are all out for the season — which still has 10 games to go.

“We’re about at Plan E right now, but that’s the nature of the game,” Whittingham said.

Do you remember this game, Kurt? UCLA was at FULL STRENGTH! Utah had its QB missing (Utah played a former walk on), its running back missing and o-linemen missing. Utah TORCHED us, Kurt. With a depleted line up, facing a team with 20 returning starters who had been in the system for 3-4 years. We didn’t score a single TD. Where were the injuries in that 44-6 drubbing? Where’s that excuse? The team QUIT in that game. How does a senior laden team, who’s well coached, in its third game of the season, with national title hopes on the line QUIT?! That’s not race, Kurt, that’s ineptitude by a coaching staff that was OUT COACHED by one of the worst teams in the country that was more injured than a car accident victim. More quotes for you to consider:

Louie Sakoda kicked three field goals and Mack became the first Ute to rush for 100 yards since Quinton Ganther gained 120 in the 2005 Emerald Bowl against No. 24 Georgia Tech, which was also Utah’s last win over a ranked team.

“This whole week we practiced to be a whole different offense — something they’ve never seen,” Mack said. “They didn’t know what to expect.”

A whole different offense?? You mean KD was OUTCOACHED by a marginal coach, with beat up players, from a marginal conference even though we were heavily favored? A coach who actually CHANGED his offense to accommodate his players and his situation? Kind of like what KD should’ve done for the Notre Dame game?

Our frustrations, for many, many years, have been with the UCLA administration and its commitment to mediocrity. Hiring Karl is an extension of that position. You’ve stated it yourself, KD is a coach that has won 6 games per year. He’s winning sixty percent of the time. Why do you think we should accept that? Why do you, as a sportswriter in this city, accept that? I’ll tell you why, because you could care less for UCLA; because you don’t think much of UCLA, as you’ve greatly shown with your condescending article. Yes, UCLA hasn’t won a national title since 1954, and that’s the culture of mediocrity and conformity the collective at Bruin nation have tried to change for several DECADES, not just this year. We’re frustrated when we have a coach like Bob Toledo take the team to No. 1 in the nation, only to fumble it all away because he’s a bad coach. This happened over and over in the eighties with Donahue. His conservative style of coaching stifled UCLA rather than helped it. Despite these COACHES-IN-TRAINING! UCLA was producing talent and competitive teams. WE are regarded as the MOST UNDERACHIEVING PROGRAM IN THE HISTORY OF THE SPORT! And why are we regarded as that? Because we have a CHEAP administration that refuses to put real coaches at the helm and puts guys that are STILL learning, like Coach Dorrell.

Don’t say that we don’t know what to make of a coach simply because he’s black. That’s ridiculous! What we’re making of him is entirely based on his MEDIOCRE record. You don’t address this in your article,b ecuase you have no argument for it. He’s a 6-6 coach. You want us to keep that? We can’t say anything derogatory about a 6-6 coach, because you’re going to throw his race in our face if we do? You’re going to say that we just don’t understand him and can’t judge him, because he’s black? That we have no basis in criticizing him despite his .500 winning percentage? You add that we should be content with this 6-6, because we’re UCLA and we’re not really a competitive football program. That’s insulting! What you don’t’ understand is that the potential for UCLA is there. NO ONE, NOT EVEN NATIONALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! denies this fact. You, however, seem to either not see it, deny it, or laugh at it. All of the elements are in place for UCLA to be a top-5 program, but we don’t spend the money on the coach. When Dan Guerrero was hired he said, and I quote, ” I don’t see the reason why UCLA can’t be a top-5 program every year in both football and basketball.” You don’t say something like that, and then months later hire someone that has never been a head coach, simply because you can pay him $600,000. That’s how Steve Lavin was hired, that’s how Bob Toledo was hired, and that’s how Walt HAzzard, LArry Farmer, and Terry Donahue were all hired.

This is our greatest point of deviation. You have no belief in UCLA. You think we should be content with a 6-6 coach who makes sure our players aren’t in trouble. You think, because we haven’t earned 10 national titles, that we should be content with an occasional 10 win season and as long as nothing is happening to embarrass UCLA, we should shut up about it. I’m sorry, but I hold UCLA in higher regard. You clearly don’t. I am ready to realize our potential. If you think our attacks are aimed at Karl Dorrell, you’re mistaken. They’re directed squarely at the UCLA administration. After your friend is terminated, we will not let up. In fact, that’s when we’re going to attack even more, because the cause isn’t Dorrell, it’s the CHEAP UCLA administration that tells us that they’re SERIOUS about football, but then puts someone in charge that they can get away with by paying the minimum and who can win just enough to keep the mediocrity. I won’t tolerate that even if you will! Go ahead and make fun of UCLA all you want, but your friend, the one you’ve given up ALL Of your journalistic integrity for, is on his way out! Not because of his race, like you suggest, not because I just can’t handle black people or don’t identify with Karl Dorrell like you suggested in your article (an embarrassing and disrespectful statement given that UCLA is one of the most liberal, cosmopolitan institutions in the country, whose diversity and respect for race dates back to the creation of the school and extends all the way through to its cheerleading staff, and an embarrassing statement given that most of us at UCLA, me included, are minorities who shared Coach Dorrell’s plight), but because in five years he has demonstrated mediocrity. I’m embarrassed for you that you would choose a contrarian position as a way of increasing your audience.

Before I conclude, let’s take a look at that 2005 season. Since you FAIL to analyze things, I will do it for you yet again.

Let’s talk about that 2005 season. You’re holding on to that season like it was the tell all. Did you fail statistics or something??? You’re citing the skewed sample as the actual rule rather than the exception? Four years of offensive futility, and one fruitful year is supposed to make us believe that the 2005 campaign is the true reflectin of Dorrell, rather than the other ones? Of course the 2005 campaign needs further study. IT was the EASIEST schedule UCLA has had since I could remember. It shaped up in our favor: All tough games at home and easy road games. In that season, we were inconsistent, too. The Comebacks were a mark of inconsistency. One come-from-behind-win or even two is great work, but four is a trend. It tells us that there are some troubles that are being ignored. IT tells us that the team doesn’t come out like it should. That it doesn’t do the things it needs to do. IF you allow a team to continue that attitude, then it’s going to be embarrassed later. And guess what happened? That’s right… EMBARRASSED by Arizona. Top-10 teams aren’t BLOWN out by teams with losing records 8 games into the season. After that, USC destroyed us just to remind us that we were really a fraud. Let’s further look at this ‘05 season. That was KD’s third season. His players had been with him for three years. Hmmmm… how curious. You see, the biggest indictment of the West coast offense is that it’s far too complex for college kids. It usually takes them 3-4 years to learn it, once they do, they have a good season, but then they graduate, and it’s back to the blackboard. Well, it looks like we’re right on schedule: three bad seasons, one good season, three more bad seasons and the cycle continues. AT this pace, we should expect a competitive team in 2009… MAYBE! That has been our biggest gripe at Bruin Nation. No one likes the West coast offense. It’s a failed system in college, for reasons obvious to everyone but Dorrell and you, apparently. That is the customary cycle of the West coast offense in college. We also look at the players on that team. Maurice Drew, Marcedes Lewis, Drew Olson ( a player fit for the west coast offense due to his grotesque limitations) Those were Bob Toledo Recruits and in the case of Maurice Drew, he was Eric Bienemye’s catch. The offense at UCLA has never changed. Whether it’s an injury, a different crop of players, a different opponent is irrelevant; Dorrell goes out there with the same offense and the same approach. He loses games in the video room, as was shown by the Utah coach who changed things up to confuse us. 1 year in 5, and don’t say that this year was marred by injuries because well before the injuries the OFFENSe was still garbage. It couldn’t score on Utah, it couldn’t score on BYU before there were injuries. MEDIOCRITY! That’s what KD has continued at UCLA. He’s done just enough to not send the program into oblivion, but he has done NOTHING to have it achieve excellence. If he believes 5 years isn’t a fair shake, then he’s sadly mistaken. What’s going to be next year’s excuse? Oh, we graduated 15 starters, so I need time with these new guys. Then in 09 it’s going to be another bad year, right? Why? Cuz we lose Ben and Cowan and we have to teach a new kid the west coast offense some time between Economics 54 and Polic Sci 129 and 50 pages of reading per class, per night, as is customary with the UC system.

yooklafan @ 3:28 pm:

Way Way Way to long especially for that retard, he’s just having a hissy and so embarrassed that his new web site has more anti dorrell sentiment then even dumpdorrell.com! I find his site quite amusing he just gets destroyed by all sorts of people that seem quite a bit more talented with a pen than this so called cal grad, which I am starting to believe is a sham, I think he went to HomeDepot school of journalism.

wmm @ 3:37 pm:

Outstanding response, Diego. You’re the one who should have the LAT column. Streeter’s replies were shockingly sophomoric. Actually, it’s just one tantrum after another with that guy.

wmm @ 3:38 pm:

That would be an insult to Home Depot. Are we sure he didn’t go to SuC?

jeff @ 3:41 pm:

I got a message from Streeter regarding my e-mail. of course,like I expected. he didn’t have anything to say regarding my e-mail. D.D. let me know where I can send the e-mail I sent to him and his response. also,what I K.Dorrell’s e-mail adress?

yooklafan @ 4:01 pm:

Current Daily tally for Streeter’s blog

PRO DORRELL/STREETER Comments: 3

PRO FIRE DORRELL/STREETER IS A SHMUCK Comments: 52

Diego @ 4:42 pm:

yooklan- I know it’s long. AS I wrote, i ddin’t intend it to be that long, but it turned out that way. The more I wrote, the more I wrote. He actually responded to my above email, and we exchanged some more emails. In the end, it all concluded rather amicably. There may be some future interactions given the exchange I just had with him. We’ll have to see.

Diego @ 4:58 pm:

by the way, I posted this one at his website

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What’s more, the UCLA administration, see Dan Guerrero’s press conference when he was hired, TELLS US that we’re goig to be a guru in football. To quote Guerrero,” There’s no reason UCLA should not be top-5 in both football and bball every year.”

What’s at the heart of this is your LOW opinion of UCLA football. This is why you think KD is a good coach for us, because he’s a nice guy, who wins at a 60% rate and keeps everything vanilla. You believe that we MUST ACCEPT this mediocrity, because in your eyes we’ve never been much.

So no, you’re wrong! We don’t have to surrender our academic standards to consistently compete. Bob Toledo recruited two top recruiting classes in his tenure. Cal has recruits qualify for its school under Tedford. You put the right man in place at UCLA, and you will have more of the athletes that can qualify.

Stanford has SEVERAL athletes per year that play in the NFL and who show excellence. It’s not a preponderance, but theres a good number. With the right coach at UCLA, many of those players that attend Stanford will elect to go to UCLA. MAny of the recruits that Cal has now, like Desean Jackson, would go to a UCLA if a big name coach was in place. AFter all, Jackson went to Cal because he liked the coach and felt Cal was more competitive. Why not UCLA? Jackson was upset that USC didnt recruit him harder, but if UCLA has a named coach, Desean is more likely to attend UCLA than any other pac-10 team.

With respect to your article, I believe you’re being Disingenuous when you say that your article wasn’t about race. Firstly, you only mildly discussed the other factors. You introduced them at the beginning of your article, but you didn’t analyze them with any depth. Secondly, you introduced race at the END of your article! Exactly! You need to know who your audience is. The bulk of College Fans are educated fans who attended college. We’ve all written argumentative pieces in our past. Any good writer knows that you end your articles with your STRONGEST argument and the most sound position you have. To end your article with race, was to tell the rest of us that Race was the factor you believed to be most salient. Thirdly, you can’t wave a race argument around, have people react to it, then suggest that we’re the ones with the issue. You stoke the flames of racism by calling out racism, it angers a number of people, and then you sit back saying, see… there’s racism involved here.

Your use of the word “some” is ridiculous. By your ambiguous definition, if 5 persons out of 15,000 are racist, you believe that those 5 should help define the lot of 15,000. That, sir, is irresponsible. The facts here point to a mediocre tenure for KD. Coaches before him received EQUAL levels of criticism. You seem to believe that during those decades of mediocrity there were no gripes by Bruin fans. You’re dead wrong ! Such isnt the case. Toledo received the SAME level of attitude that KD is receiving now. There were attacks on his intelligence, on his offense, on his integrity. Where were you during all of that? Maybe you were watching real football programs, given that you don’t believe UCLA is a real football school.

Bruins095 @ 6:07 pm:

He went to Cal, how could he possibly undertand our frustration? Talk about futility! 50 years since a rosebowl appearance. 70 years since a rosebowl victory. He probably has contempt for ucla. The whole things strikes me as being an emotional issue for him extrapolated into an irrational analysis.

Tommy Bruin @ 6:21 pm:

I like it. Streeter is as much of a journalist as Dorrell is a head coach. I know junior high school kids that write better and more intelligently than he does. The LA Times should be ashamed of itself for printing his crap.

alabruinsfan @ 6:41 pm:

Has anyone of you considered that Streeter (and other similar garrulent pedants) are perpetuating the problem, stirring the pot, because they want to see us lose and continue. We have 100 national titles! The next possible competitor behind SC is 50 behind us. If we competed well at football, we would demand the respect that ESPN and the east coast west-haters refuse to give us. The media is full of SC grads that by doing what Streeter has done, publicly continue to keep us down. Dump Dorell, and Dump Guerrero, the AD has been our biggest problem since before Donnahue.

Tustin Bruin @ 8:09 pm:

I totally agree, I just cancelled my subscription. I want to start a Dump Streeter campaign.

Diego @ 8:39 pm:

I have long held that this city’s newspapers have a pro-USC slant.

yooklafan @ 9:30 pm:

I am with Tustin… Dumpstreeter.com should be next. In all his responses he just does this childish sarcasm what a tard, your a frigging writer… present a valid argument, some new wrinkle im not seeing. Not to mention as I recall in all his blubbering idiocy he never once gave a reason to keep KDork, only offering up that’s he’s about par at six wins a season what a shmuck, I am sorry when your income is in the upper quarter percent of the nation you dont get to play a race card (as I am sure KD realizes) and you damn well better suceed at what your doing or you’ll be gone, its not like working at Staples for 6.75 and coming up short on your paper sales.

old coach @ 11:21 pm:

I am old coach.

Tell streeter to hump himself.

His label of walk on? Moose Theriot is the best fullback in America. And a run on that is the starter and plays all special teams. So streeter, you blew your interview, you should be fired, and now you use the walk on label. Wanna meet the moose? face on loser streeter? You pathetic b class writer that most likely was a part of the George Wallace school of writing. what a pathetic loser.

Jesse @ 11:25 pm:

Diego, way to go. I think what you wrote may have been long but it spoke volumes for every UCLA fan. I have written to Streeter myself and I think that when he wrote the article, he did not expect the backlash that was to come. I watched the UCLA-MSU game and thought to myself—WHY CAN’T WE HAVE A FOOTBALL COACH THAT CAN RALLY HIS TEAM THE WAY BEN HOWLAND RALLIED OUR BASKETBALL TEAM TONIGHT? Dorrell must go. Plain and simple. Once Dorrell is gone, maybe we can get Streeter to go as well. I have cancelled my subscription to the Times because of incompetent idiots like him and I have read that a couple of people have also.

November 21, 2007

landry clark @ 12:21 am:

Yes! Basketball season is here.

How ’bout fire KD and hire Denny Green. What would Streeter say?

V-Bruin @ 7:14 pm:

After years of reading Diego’s work, I can honestly say that his approach has always been to the upmost accuracy! Good job, Diego! Well done!

V-Bruin @ 7:19 pm:

Im sick of losing!!!!!!!!!! I would like to say “UCLA” and not have to listen to all of these bandwagon Trojans go on and on and on about how they are gonna beat down UCLA to further embarrassment. Enough is ENOUGH! We are losing soooo many talented prospects because we cant hold up to our name… UCLA has employed one idiot after another who then employs another idiot. Its a circle! I think the Director needs to head on out as well. Lets start fresh!

LawrenceSFBruin @ 7:45 pm:

Finally, someone, V-Bruin, has got it RIGHT. If you want Clueless Karl out, you have to end this circle of destruction. If IDIOT GUERRERO won’t fire Dip—t Karl, we have to exercise the NEBRASKA OPTION: Fire the IDIOT A.D. Hasn’t Guerrero run out of excuses for KD by now; it’s been 5 YEARS for Christ’s sake. KD’s tragic regime has lasted longer than US involvement in World War II!!! IDIOT Guerrero keeps hoping to extend KD’s tenure going on life support long enough to have a lucky season in order to give him another 5 YEAR EXTENSION. Guerrero: WAKE UP FOOL!!! You committed the atrocity of hiring this unqualified “coach” and it is YOUR responsibility to rectify the situation.

There are only 2 options:

1) Guerrero fires Dorrell OR

2) UCLA fires Guerrero, and hires a new A.D. who WILL fire Dorrell.

Either way, the objective will be finally met.
KEEP UP THE HEAT!!!

bruin genius @ 8:17 pm:

I do not mind that scinario unfolding. But Dan was brilliant in Ben Howland hiring.

V-Bruin @ 9:13 pm:

Guerrero had the same B.S. with Toledo! The guy is an idiot! He thought he was making an “upgrade” with Dorrell. HA! Some upgrade! Dude is a fool…and needs to be canned. How would something like that go down? Who would be in charge of firing Senor Guerrero?

Louis Miranda @ 10:41 pm:

It is about time to take a serious look at guerrero. I still think he is scared to fire dorrell or he would have done it by now. He didn’t give Toledo a chance after an 8-5 season in 2002 but he let’s dorrell continue after 4 mediocre 6-6 type seasons with one of the ugliest and luckiest 10-2 seasons in college football history, which included the most embarrassing loss to SC in the 42 years I have followed the rivalry 19-66. It has really got to stop but guerrero doesn’t have the guts to fire a black coach. Bottom line. I don’t care what color our next coach is; as long as it’s not dorrell and he has a history of winning and isn’t too old.

StumblingCat @ 10:43 pm:

Actually anyone with a pulse would have hired Howland, the guy had ties to SoCal. Don’t give Guerrero too much credit for that one. Howland was extremely successful at NAU and Pittsburgh, what if Howland were already hired by a school like Kentucky, you guys would have been stuck with the KD equivalent of KD. You really ought to fire Guerrero too.

November 22, 2007

Diego @ 10:19 am:

Make no mistake about it, Hiring Howland wasn’t that easy, despite him being a UCLA fan. There was still the issue of paying him the money, which is where we struggle in the hiring process. It was Guerrero who worked that angle. In the past, there have been plenty of coaches wanting to come to UCLA, but the money isn’t there. DG worked his skills to squeeze the money out of a tradtionally cheap administration. That is true skill. I trust DG for this go around. If he is able to bring us the right coach in football, I will place him as one of the best A.D.s to ever exist in the pac-10

gil martin @ 10:42 am:

Hey UCLA! please keep Dorrell.
USC fan

November 23, 2007

Casey @ 10:03 am:

The AD at UCLA is AWOL as is KD. Thanksgiving was yesterday. Time to get rid of both turkeys.

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