Dump Dorrell

November 10, 2007

Gameday Arizona State: The Tomorrowland Bowl

Disneyland's Tomorrowland should be sponsoring today's game at the Rose Bowl.  It has been a Disney like season for Arizona State and the team that they bring to the Rose Bowl today looks like our tomorrow.  ASU comes to town a top 10 team with an 8-1 record lead by their new big-time winning coach Dennis Erickson.  Last year ASU was in the same boat we are in: Beacon-of-mediocrity Dirk Koetter, ASU's former 6-year head coach, had the program mired in a string of average seasons, full of promise and absent execution.  Koetter's final embarrassment was a loss in last year's Monster.com bowl to Karl Dorrell.  Koetter promptly got fired, paving the way for Dennis Erickson's and ASU's rise back to the top of college football … in just 1 season!! 

Meanwhile, Dan Guerrero retained Dorrell and for his good deed Karl took up Koetter's mantle … cementing our mediocrity and losing this year's Monster.com bowl to Mike Stoops (who got another year to work his odd magic thanks to Dorrell).  See what we are getting at here?  ASU is our Tomorrowland.  Dennis Erickson is our futuristic coach … a winning experienced coach.  Watch how ASU plays - simplified playbook, balance and discipline - hallmarks of experience and success.  Today we will see our future march into the Rose Bowl (if Dan Guerrero choose to make excellence our future).  Dan Guerrero should pay attention closely.  While we can and should still win, there is no escaping the irony of the situation.  WE COULD HAVE BEEN THAT TEAM!!  And we still can be … tomorrow. 

Ok, that's it for the Disney special … let's talk about today's game.  Looking around the local scene we are again wondering where is the excitement for a top 10 team coming to the Rose Bowl to play our Bruins.  Nothing … not a darn blip on the radar.  Thank you Karl Dorrell.  

Our polyanna coach, however, is still out there talking about controlling our own destiny, still being in contention for the conference title, and of course, having a great practice week.  And Brian Dohn is there to soak it all up:  

"It's been a good week. We're bouncing back," Dorrell said. "We still have a lot to play for, and it's still on the table. We understand where we're at, in terms of the injury front, but you know what? Our players aren't using that as an excuse. They want to come out and compete, and show what type of team we are."

A big whoopdie do.  It's tiring losing, but it really is more tiring listening to Karl Dorrell.  Why our beat press continues to prod Dorrell by not holding him to a higher standard is beyond our comprehension.  Not a single follow up question … a simple "Karl, you said that last week, and the week before that, and both weeks turned into losses. How is this week different?"  Basic, to the point, not egregious, not unnecessarily embarrassing to the coach.  What's the problem with such a question??  Once we get rid of Dorrell and bring in a new coach, watch how quickly the beat press finally become reporters asking tough questions and not letting anything slide.  And then watch how they say, "hey, you always wanted us to ask tough questions."  What a joke.   

Even Chris Foster throws Dorrell a bone by stating that the team could clean the slate with a 3 game winning streak:

 Still, the Bruins can rightly claim that all will be forgotten, maybe even forgiven, if they win three games.

No, not all will be forgotten or forgiven.  If the team wins today, and it certainly can, step under cover because the praise will be raining down hard.  You will wonder if we'd won the national championship.  This pressure cooker that divides Bruin Nation, with the beat press firmly in the Dorrell camp (for one last shot), is about ready to explode.  Whatever happens today will certain blow the lid for one side.  But the truth is, as we all know, that this game will not be the deciding factor for Dorrell's job.  Karl Dorrell's 5 year record of achievement speaks the truth, the whole truth.   Go Bruins!!

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23 Comments on Gameday Arizona State: The Tomorrowland Bowl

November 10, 2007

jeff @ 3:31 pm:

as a die-hard Bruin fan,sitting here watching the game right now. Ucla is winning 13-10. I am starting to wonder!? why the f’ck do we even have a f’cking quarterback!? I mean a quarterback is supposed to throw the football isn’t he!!!!???? the play calling is just soo f’cking pathetic,its sickening to watch! they don’t let Rashan do anything! please lord! Please let us get Spurrier or Chow! what do my fellow Bruins think?

Christian @ 4:57 pm:

What an unmitigated joke this team is.

Jim @ 5:33 pm:

Is it me or does Jay Norvell look like a porn star with those glasses on?

TommyBruin @ 5:37 pm:

DOOFUS has to be fired after this. His lack of coaching ability is now obvious to everyone. Air Force beat Notre Dame today. We lost to Notre Dame. If OR had played against Notre Dame, would we have lost? Personal fouls, dropped passes, fair catch on the 3 yeard line - we could have won this game if the players had been coached even a little bit.

If DOOFUS isn’t fired after this train wreck of a season, we don’t need a Dump Dorrell website. We’ll need a Dump Guerrero website.

T. Parker @ 5:40 pm:

Dorrel can whine all he wants about injuries, but his stupid reliance on the West Coast offense is the REASON why his quarterbacks get hurt. They are sitting targets back there! He should’ve recruited q.b.’s who can roll the pocket, instead of the stiffs like Olsen and Cowen he has. Karl, look in the mirror, it’s your own fault you’re down to your third and forth string q.b.

Tustin Bruin @ 5:42 pm:

Well said! How embarrasing for our program, we are Notre Dame’s only victory to date. I will always stand by our Bruins, but they are so poorly coached. It is time to end the Dorrell experiment.

arlie @ 6:04 pm:

ucla has the hot bed of talent in los angeles area. they have the facilities, they have the media market and just as much they have fans who are starving to compete for the bcs bowl games so why do we have to settle for 6-6 every year. Let me ask this do you think their is a difference between steve lavin and ben howland? exactly their is a difference, so lets get a coach that UCLA and its fans deserve already!!!!!!!!!!!!

Valencia Doug @ 6:17 pm:

I have to admit to feeling very, very sorry for Karl Dorrell. Coaching aside, he is a super class act and a very nice man. It is too bad that he couldn’t have gotten a head coaching job at a small school to get some experience. He was thrown into a high profile job that he simply didn’t have the qualifications for. It is Dan Guerrero who deserves the blame for this. Not Karl. He took the opportunity that was offered him.

What if you had been an assistant to a heart surgeron for a few years? You handed him the instruments he asked for, monitored the patient’s blood pressure, etc. Then one day a hospital down the street calls you and asks if you would like to come over and not be the assistant, but be the heart surgeon himself! I think you would lose a few patients…..

Patients such as Utah, Notre Dame, Washington State, Arizona and Arizona State. Still scheduled for the operating room, Oregon and USC.

Oh, I vote for Norm Chow. That would be toooooo good! That would take the UCLA/USC rivalry to a new level.

Florida Bruin @ 6:27 pm:

I’ve been observing the Dorrell expirement from Florida while having to endure the gators as they win football and basketball championships (who saw that coming anyway, Billy Donovan, right). The only thing people outside the Pac-10 know about UCLA is Wooden and our football program, well, they don’t think our football program qualifies or can even be compared with anything else going on in the country. We don’t win and then we lose games we shouldn’t lose. How the hell do you build a program doing that. I agree with Tustin, emabarassing and poorly coahced. Nothing personal Karl, but you’ve got to go. At this point, Dan Guerrero needs to man up and just do what needs to be done.

Louis Miranda @ 6:28 pm:

Lrt’s dump Guerrero if he doesn’t fire Dorrell after the USC game. We are the Michigan State Spartans of the Pac-10. Start the season ok then completely collapse the next 6-8 games. What a disgrace. A team full of quitters to go with the losers that coach them. Everybody should be happy this miserable season is almost over.

fred wallin @ 6:46 pm:

There wasn’t one time in the game that I even thought UCLA would or could win…I’m talking, not even with the 10-0 and 13-7 leads…

This team simply makes too many mental errors and that has to go back at the coaching staff.

5-7 and the program is going backwards.

I feel sorry for Karl Dorrell, but he wasn’t prepared for this type of program.

It is time for a change.

jeff @ 6:57 pm:

I agree with you louis. but our players are not giving up! u are totally off base! u see the way our defense played!? we should have one this game! but once again!,gay Norvell has a horrible game plan,and why do we even have a quarterback for!? we never throw the F’ing ball! 5 yard outs all the time! then when we do need to pass,its soo obvious what we are gonna do! Norvell needs to be fired with Dorrell. our defense was awesome! and for you people who say our defense sucks! did you see what happens when our offense can move the ball a little bit!? our defense has a little time to rest!,thus not tiring out and giving up a bunch of yards! I heard Chow and Spurrier might be interested in Ucla. please god! anyone of thoses two! please lord! any of those two and we are back atop the pac and national title race every year!

Lucky Scoles @ 7:02 pm:

I blame Dan Guerrero for not several reasons. 1. For not spending the money to hire a decent coach to begin with. UCLA deserves to have a coach like Urban Meyer or Nick Saban or anyone who can inspire teammates and fans alike. 2. Dan, get a clue, Karl Dorrell will NEVER take to the Rose Bowl or to a National Championship. How can UCLA win 100 National Championships and only have a total of ONE national football championship and that was a shared one. 3. Dan, are you totally stupid? Everyone saw TWO YEARS ago that Dorrell just doesn’t have the necessary skills to lead a championship team. We lost to WYOMING in a Bowl Game? We lost to FRESNO STATE in a Bowl game? And this year we probably won’t make it to another lousy bowl game. Why do UCLA fans put up with this? FIRE DAN GUERRORO.

Diego @ 7:51 pm:

Osaar passed better than I anticipated, but it still wasn’t good overall. It was, however, an improvement from where he was before.

The game plan was conservative for obvious reasons of protection, but playing like that isn’t going to allow you to win. I’m frustrated by the fact that today was a very winnable game, yet we didn’t win. You have to make plays to win, but offensively we had none. THe running game had early success, but we apparently moved away from that. I wish we would’ve incorporated better passing and running combinations earlier in the game.

What is also frustrating is the fact that Osaar should’ve been used in the ND game. That was a huge miscalculation by Dorrell. Clearly he would’ve outperformed Bethel-Thompson, and we would’ve beaten a dog of a team in Notre Dame.

Diego @ 7:51 pm:

Those people that defended KD on Bruin Talk after the game, in the newspaper, and in the stands with regards to injuries must understand a few points:

1) Before the injuries, we just weren’t clicking. It would be easier to believe the injuries were a reason for sucking this much, if we were playing well before they happened. That simply isn’t the case. AGainst UTAH, we were virtually at full strength. The only one missing that I can remember was Harwell. We were DESTROYED by A third string, also walk-on, freshman and a back-up RB. Not beaten, but DESTROYED! BYU passed all over us and offensively, we were not at all smooth against BYU. IN fact, it was Bruce Davis’s play that made the difference in that game and preserved the narrow win for the Bruins. Stanford didn’t do too badly against us, either. Yes, we blew them out in the end, but Stanford also had big pass plays on us. It showed how suspect our secondary really is.

2) Our back up personnel IS better than the competition we were facing. I don’t accept the injury excuse when I see NAVY and AIRFORCE beating the PANTS out of Notre Dame, IN SOUTH BEND! Are we to believe that the NAVY guys are BETTER than our back ups???? ARe we to believe that AFA has more athletes than we do?? I will not tolerate an opinion which creates the position that our back ups are not capable where Navy’s, UNLV’s, AFA’s players are. How can someone say that we lost to ND, because of injuries, but then watch MILITARY ACADEMY teams move the ball on Notre Dame with ease.

3) I might accept, or as much as GRANT clemency, the excuse for injuries if this was KD’s third year or less, but it isn’t. He has shown us a consistent trail of inconsistency. I laughed at a guy who said, in the rose bowl, let’s let him come back and show us what he can do with a team that’s healthy. WTF??!??!?! Where have these people been the last 4 years? Where????!!! Asleep!? Are they new fans?? WE HAVVVVVVVEE seen what KD has done with a fully healthy team. With a healthy team he has… he has… well, he has….

…. What has he done with a healthy team??

ummm… let me think…

hmmmm…

Oh yeah, With a healthy team he has lost to Utah, lost to Wyoming, lost to Fresno, lost to the worst FSU team in more than a quarter century, been BLOWN OUT BY ARizona, lost to USC in EMBARRASSING fashion. He has had no accomplishments of considerable note in his entire tenure. tHE only considerable one was the victory over USC last year.

Anyone that makes a commentary on KD’s tenure as a coach by judging this year is either educationally challenged, or blatantly unethical.

Another ASTOUNDING opinion I heard today was someone telling me to shut up, because KD had a great offense in 2005. The guy said to me, if you don’t think the west coast offense is any good, then explain 2005. This fooooken guy is going to take the SKEWED sample and rely on it to uphold his argument? I said to him, ” Explain??” SURE! I’ll explain. I have 4 years of futility that support my argument. 1 year out of 5 makes you believe that the offense works??? What sort of grade did you earn in statistics? You should turn in your diploma right now, is what I told him. I added that the ‘05 team was blessed with an embarrasingly EASY schedule, per haps the easiest we’ve had in 40 years (this year’s schedule was pretty easy, too), talented offensive players, a 5th year QB who had been in the system for years and whose gross limitations actually made him a better qb for the mediocrity that is the WC offense, Maurice Drew and MArcedes Lewis who essentially did all of the work on offense and a lucky streak (see the comeback victories we had in games we shouldn’t have won). When it was time for that team to play against real talent, we folded against USC and Arizona embarrassed us.

That, my friends, is a CLEAR fraud! It cannot be forgiven, but above all, it CANNOT be continued.

tobe @ 8:18 pm:

yeah i called in on bruin talk and responded to an earlier caller who said the reason why we’ve lost this year is that the teams that have beat have better talent. i straight up said that was crap. we all know this but i feel like typing anyway, we lost to UTAH who was playing with there backup qb and rb, lost to notre dame who replaced there qb and o-line, lost to two washington teams that basically haven’t changed from last year and i would think we could beat the washington schools for recruits and ASU overrated, and is the same team as last year just with a new coach, but the personnel for the most is the same. then i called out bob connely or however u spell his name for not being able to protect our qbs with a veteran o-line.

i was a little disappointed with bruin talk because they still seem to take the same semi-pro dorrell view and defend dorrell, and the guy didn’t even respond to my first part, and just rambled on about how injuries have decimated the team and didn’t acknowledge my point about the o-line. and the thing that cracked me up was the last caller who was saying that this is no KD’s fault because in the end its the players who make the plays. yes theres truth in that, but its KD’s job to improve and development these players and obviously do things that allow them to succeed. yes im beating a dead horse, but KD has been doing the same to us the UCLA football fans.

whp '68 @ 10:02 pm:

Don’t sweat it; these guys are homers. Who do you think picks up their tab? They say anything bad about UCLA and they’re toast.

I had to laugh because at one stretch during the USC-CAL game tonight, they wanted to promote their NCAA basketball coverage and they dragged our old friend, the “wethead”, the “lizard of Westwood”, Steve Lavin! With any sort of luck (and DD is correct, don’t let up now) we’ll see Dorrell doing gigs like that soon enough.

..one can only pray.

TommyBruin @ 10:29 pm:

DUH-rell is a piece of crap. His ass should have been fired after the UTAH game, or at least after the Notre Dame embarrassment. AIR FORCE beat Notre Dame today. Fire this TRAIN WRECK today, end our suffering, put in Ed Kezarian (towel guy 1-0) for the rest of the season, and start the search for a REAL COACH. Fire DOOFUS’s whole staff, burn anything they ever touched, airbrush them out of all the pictures - erase them, pretend it never happened, and let’s start from the ground up to build a real football program with real coaches. The sooner we perform a DORRELLECTOMY on our program, the sooner the healing can begin.

Diego @ 10:31 pm:

KD won’t do gigs like that unless he’s going to a mime convention. Lavin, even though he’s a lizard, has personality.

Tobe, well done. I heard your call tonight, brutha. Ic all all of the time, but I didn’t drive to teh game tonight and there were too many people talking in the car. I was surprised that they let me listen to Bruin Talk at all.

Tim Cates is the host, and he’s a good guy. I know him personally and I know that he can’t continue this torture. He has his strong criticisms, but you just have to listen closely to them. Tey’re there, they’re obvious, but he says them in a soft manner. It’s his job to host that show, and it’s a pretty tough job. Every time I call him I tell him that it’s tough what he’s doing, because I know his real opinions on the matter. He always laughs at that, and then let’s me say what I want to say.

I stopped calling the last two weeks, because it’s the same stuff over and over. There’s nothing more to be said, really.

we just have to continue to apply the pressure.

Ric @ 11:17 pm:

At this point, I would rather see the Alumni Cheerleader coach the remaining 2 games over Dorrell. There really isn’t much more to be said about KD other than “Goodbye.”

Eddie Ayers @ 11:32 pm:

Bob Toledo was Vince Lombardi compared to this guy. It’s time to start mentioning replacements. How about Gary Barnett- the former Northwestern and Colorado coach. Or Rick Neuheisel. Geez at this point I’d even be happy in bringing in Toledo back! Would Dick Vermiel want his old job back? Anybody please! Dullard is ruining the program

November 11, 2007

Jim @ 9:00 am:

Unfortunately folks the task will remain daunting unless the ads are placed, the media continues to talk of uninspired performances, and WE don’t go to the games. 78,000 yesterday continues to show DG that a lot of people show up for Karl Dorrell games and that is all that matters in the end. I didn’t go yesterday, I sat on my tickets, did you? I will not go to another game, as I have told DG in numerous emails, until a new face is within that headset. I have also found that the pain is much easier from home rather than in mass in the parking lot afterwards.

Jim Van @ 10:54 pm:

Karl Dorrell well be remembered for one crowning achievement in the NCAA record book. His Bruins were Notre Dame’s ONLY win in 2007. That one will smell up the place for many, many years to come.

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