Man, it’s hard to write this, but it’s almost better if we’re blown out. Look at the defensive players, they’re starting to quit with 6 minutes left in the HALF!! Look at the dumb faces on our coaches. What a BLOOD BATH we’re witnessing.

Suggestion: How Bout you guys use the money to buy ads in not only the Daily bruin, but the LA Times as well. In those ads you guys should put something about chipping in money for the billboard or something. We’ll have a much larger audience to get our message out to.

Dude…I totally agree Diego. As tough as it is to say it, I’m actually HOPING Zona blows us out. Bad coaching is one thing, but if its clear that KD’s lost the team too, DG will have no option but to give KD the boot…otherwise you’re exposing UCLA football to the “death spiral.” A loss to Zona I think would demonstrate that.

on our way to another humiliating loss. Arizona’s probably rolled up 300 yeards by now.

27-14 Zona late in the 3rd….and the commentators have noted how it looks like “…UCLA is just walking around out there.” Yep…Dorrell’s totally lost the team. Go…er…Zona!?!?! (Sigh!!)

it’s not halftime yet.

KD is done. As far as DeWW I think he’s quite overrated…having let all those crap teams light up the scoreboard as they have done. We need an overhaul.

KD has ruined my saturdays

Saturdays?

KD has ruined CFB season for me for the past 5 YEARS!!!

Unbelievable. Hopefully Guerrero fires him before the ASU game.

I still can’t root for ‘zona though… Still holding out hope for the Bruins. Rasshan’s in now… Nice run :O

Now it’s Rashaan? What happened to Ethel Merman err Bethel-Thompson?

Me either. I can’t root against UCLA regardless of how bad they stink. Time to flip over and catch the Notre Dame/Navy OT. Dorrell should be canned tomorrow.

I have been a fan since 64 and have never left a game early or turned the telveision off during a game until today. If Dan does not address this situation this week I am not going to go to the final two home games and I will not give my tickets to anyone to use. If the fact that Bruins are losing support doesn’t bother him he needs to go as well!

At this point I’m willing to take a loss with dignity. It’s something that just isn’t right.

I’m not rooting against UCLA, but I’m just calculating in my head. I lovin’ how Osaar is in there. This only pays credence to what most of us complained about during the Notre Damn game: We wanted Osaar to play over Bet-Thom

Could we ask for more from Osaar? Regardless of the outcome, I’m impressed with his performance, and like Diego, not understanding why he wasn’t prepared to play at QB against ND….

RASSHAN!! he clearly has way more heart then any of the QBs we have played this year. 4th on the depth chart with more heart then anyone else. u gotta love it. he has gotten us back in this game by himself. LETS GO BLUE!

my lock of the week is looking good with five minutes to go, bet the money line so need zona to hold on, sorry i know this goes against being a fan but i was 95 percent sure about this one.

Yeah…Rasshan looks very impressive…..should give KDR something good to work with!!!

I really dont think a billboard is going to be necessary, after this one four losses to complete loser teams in one season for a preseason top ten squad even a blind mongloid could figure out its bye bye time for Dorkell.

Say hello to a november bowl game.

Sunflower seed bowl here we come!

well….thats it. rasshan was impressive tho. i do blame dorrell for not having his has the 3rd string at the start of the season. if he was, he might have been more ready to play today.

LOL@ rasshan getting player of the game on our side. thats hilarious.

we have some insane injuries tho. cant blame that on dorrell…..but damn.

sigh. i just hate seeing this. at least our guys played very hard when rasshan came in, they really tried hard.

its tough to watch ucla games nowadays…we really need a coaching change

How about hiring Coach Taylor from Friday Night Lights…time and time again he has shown us how to win the game, with some fancy play calling.

Please ask the “Loose Cannons” on KLAC 570 to stop having Karl Dorrell on every Monday@ 2:00PM. I am tired of hearing the same lame excuses each week.” We made too many mistakes and didn’t execute” I love the Loose Cannons but this has become a broken record.

I sent this email to Dan.

I hope it isn’t to harsh.

Okay Mr. Guerrero, I sent an email when you choose this head football coach and watched his first couple of seasons wasting talent. He belongs in professional football where you found him.

I think you should consider hiring a new coaching staff or renaming your current staff.

You could introduce them as:

Head coach – Karl Dumbbell – if you can ascertain where his head is.

Offensive Coordinator - Jay Novocain - who’s offense is deadening. Oh sorry, I meant dead. RIP

Defensive Coordinator – Dewayne Walkalloverus or Passalloverus for that matter - Please stop all those trick plays. HELLO this is college football.

Think…. YOU could be first….

I can see the billboard and ads now.

DUMP GUERRERO

Let’s Have An Athletic Director
Who Can Direct

It would not matter if the team won the last three games in conference play. Incompetence is all that matters and it is yours.

GO BRUINS

Stu @ 3:49 pm:
Yeah…Rasshan looks very impressive…..should give KDR something good to work with!!!

I agree that Osaar brought some life, but we ALSO saw the reason why he hasn’t played, and is buried on the depth chart. I wrote up an explanation of why Osaar hadn’t played during the ND game. It all detailed a conversation I had with Wayne Cook who told me Rasshan is TERRIBLY, TERRIBLY inaccurate. The paraphrase the rest of the conversation, we both agreed that he should still play, because we need to find out who the gamers are. Some times you’re not a good player in practice or in camp, but once in the game, you BALL!

WEll, he partially did. He showed what we all wanted: An ability to run and keep the defense guessing; however, he also showed how RIDICULOUSLY inaccurate he is. I mean, he’s worse than Pat Cowan’s inaccuracy. That final possession, where he was forced to run, Rasshan showed everyone that the man can’t throw a freaking 10 yard pass. He missed a read of a slip screen that would’ve gone for a long gain. He then SKIPPED an 8 yard pass to Brazeall. I mean, he THREW it RIGHT INTO THE GROUND! The next pass wasn’t even close, and the last pass was RIDICULOUS! Just as Wayne Cook said, he can’t throw a simple 10 yard pass.

Interesting game…and about time we saw Rasshan in action. You really have to wonder about Karl’s ability to recognize his player’s talents. I have spent 5 weeks trying to figure why his staff tried to stuff Olson into a West Coast offense…and convert Ossaar into a wide-out. What college offense would not want a 6′4″ 215 lb QB with a rocket arm and great running skills…and what now appears to be good field vision if this one game is any indicator. THIS IS JUST ANOTHER INSTANCE OF POOR JUDGEMENT…AND POOR USE OF TALENT. Karl really needs to move on….

Inaccuracy in this game is function of adrenaline. If your first start comes with poor preparation (a hallmark of KD teams)you will over or under throw. What Ossaar showed is a feel which is what Cowan brings when he is physically capable. Pat was not ready to play today…and Ossaar was not prepared. He might be inaccurate…but you can’t see that just from today regardless of what Cook said to you.

the bottom line…loses are good…just that much closer to the end of this era.

why did Charlie Weiss not go for the fine in regulation with a field goal?

…i mean win (not fine)

LAGUNA- if a QB that scrambles and can’t throw a 10 yard pass is the direction we should go, then we’re in MAJOR trouble.

Wayne Cook said that he was amazed how in warm up, standing only 15 yards apart from the other guy playing catch, Osaar was, get this; SKIPPING IT to the other guy, making the other guy jump, lean and scrape.. oh yeah, and CHASE the ball after it sailed over him and around him.

All of that written- the man is WAY ATHLETIC! We have to go with that Athleticism for the rest of the season. We can work with that and make him a GAMER! Give him things with which he can work….

But then I ask, WHY?! Who cares? This season is LOST! LOSTTTTT!!!! Let’s throw Osaar in there and let’s just see what he can do. I don’t care if we lose or win from here forward; I just want dORRELL gone. Whoever the coach is going to be next year, he can work with Ben Olson and create a REAL, COLLEGE offense that’s going to accentuate Ben’s abilities and talent.

Listen to Bruin Talk right now on AM 570.

This is it! Who cares! The season is DEAD! Play Osaar, play Pat, Play Bet-Thom, who the F-bomb CARES!?

The only thing that is important is that we have a new coach and that coach needs to create a real offense and exploit the real talents of our players.

NExt year, though, I want a real offense, I want Ben Olson back there and I want our talent being properly used.

Honestly, do we really care what happens the rest of the season? Does it matter if we go to the Las Vegas Bowl instead of the Heritage Bowl? Or the Weedeater, we play the game 3 weeks before New Year’s Day BOWL?? Does that MATTER???! Do you guys really care about that?

I don’t!

I agree that the season is DEAD, but we still have to win at SC.

yea who cares what wayne cook of all people said. today was ossaar’s first time in a game as a bruin at QB, and put in a pressure situation at that. down 20, and he brings us all the way back to actually being able to tie the game up. he basically did that on his own on offense. we can all admit that.

he wasnt accurate, but you can expect that here. i wouldnt expect it to change much over the next 3 games if he got a chance to play either. i would expect him to come in next year extremely accurate.

he is actually a better fit QB for this offense then any of the other guys we have.

oh wow diego u want OLSON back there? HE IS ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLE! i cant take your opinion seriously if u want olson back as QB. he has proved time and time again that he is weak and doesnt have any desire. he also has no connection with the team. he is married and older and doesnt relate on many levels. he is also very slow and has shown a lack of real leadership or ability to inspire his teammates.

he is exactly what we DONT need.

cowan or rasshan
THEN olson
then 30 other players
then that horrible walk on.

has anyone e-mailed DG yet? i think a polite e-mail might help.

dguerrero@athletics.ucla.edu

UCLA football is in a very sad state we deserve better and not tolerate sorry ass loses to the weak ass teams, coach has to go. UCLA should be in contention with national championships and not in contention with the Emerald Bowl or El Paso Bowl. Even when Toledo was here we had an identity although the defense was very poor our offense could score even made a mediocre QB like Cade McNown look like a NFL lottery pick. Time to go Dorrell enough is enough, I don’t even care if you beat SC just get out of our sidelines and look up the word enthusiasm and energy two factors you lack and my patience has ran out.

Joe Bruin - Tom Brady couldn’t win with this offense, so I wouldn’t make Olson the scapegoat for the play of the offense (but of course , we all have strong opinions).

I believe with the correct system (and with real coaching), Olson can be a decent QB his Sr. year (2008).

We have Aaron Corp and Crissman coming next year, so I assume they’ll be battling for the 2009 Season.

If we get a strong ‘proven’ Head Coach, picking up a strong recruiting class, this team could be strong in 2009/2010…

I finally believe Dorrell is gone. As a human being, I could sit here for hours and write down the positive things he does in life as a father, husband, etc…
But unfortunately, as the HC of UCLA, he’s just not able to get the job done. Also, with a $2,000,000.00 buy-out, he and his family will be taken care of.

Let’s hope ‘DG’ goes to the South while looking for a replacement for KD. We need a strong ‘offensive minded’ coach from the South, etc…
There are alot of attractive candidates…and there’s no reason this football program can’t be in the Top 15/20 every year (and for the National Championship).

The era is almost over, I wish KD and his family well, he is a good man.

It’s all up to ‘DG’ now….

Go Bruins!!!

Go lakers!!!

I didn’t care about the game today because I knew the Cats would beat Dorrell. I agree with everyone who has said KD has ruined our saturdays! Haven’t read allthe posts but has anybody mentioned that Navy broke a 43 year losing streak against Notre Dame today. What a great distinction KD has.
He kept Notre Dame from having a perfect season!!!!

Bring Back Cade McNown, he will also bring hotass play boy bunnies!!!! At that very least they will be pleasent to look @….

KD needs to be placed on suicide watch

Rod baby - great post ! ! ! !

LMAO JOe… your last line made me laugh! Ha ha ha… That’s true: 30 other guys before Bethel-THompson!!!

What you write about Ben is correct, except for him being horrible.

He is weak. He’s kind of a wuss. He does appear to lack desire and he does have a difficult time with Chemistry, given that he’s married and older. There is no denying that he is slow, and his leadership is lacking.

The fact is, he’s in the WRONG OFFENSE! IT’s that straightforward. A guy in a wrong offense turns into a disaster. The same, SAME exact items you wrote above where written about Carson Palmer. It was like pullin’ teeth with him, but it was because he was in Paul Hackett’s, get this, WEST COAST OFFENSE! The frustrating part is that he had all of the tools. He had the arm, he had the strength, he had the build, he had the talent!! He was simply in the wrong, wrong offense.

Ben was the #1 QB in the Nation when he was recruited. I cannot believe, CANNOOOOOOT believe that suddenly, he’s terrible and talentless. Clearly, we all agree that this west coast offense is wrong for this team. More than any other, however, this offense is wrong for Ben. He’s the prototypical QB, but he’s not being used in that manner. The reason why Pat is better in this offense is because he doesn’t have the physical tools of throwing. He can handle the short passes, but mid range and long passes are not ones he can hit (notice how we hit none of these).

another point that hat to be noted is, Arizona was taken completely by surprise when UCLA put Osaar in there. They didn’t game plan for a guy like that, given that they’ve never seen UCLA use someone like that. EVER! That was pivotal in what Osaar could do. With the top defenses coming up on our schedule (USC, ASU and Oregon), it’s no surprise that they will game plan for him and take away teh running element. They’ll force him to pass. YIKES !

I agree. I used to wake up saturday mornings, put on the jersey and ready to watch the game. Now my saturday’s are spent washing the car and running errands.

what about our all-american kicker? Dorrell will be known as the architect of Kicker University.

“KD needs to be placed on suicide watch”

The guy has repeatedly said that he sleeps well at night, and it is what it is. When he gets fired, he’ll have a 2M parachute. After this game, he’ll go home and have a romantic diner with his wife and tuck his kids into bed and sleep a sound sleep.

I hear you guys. I feel for you guys. But Karl is a good friend, runs a relatively clean program, and I don’t want to part with 2 million…so let him fulfill his contract. To borrow from Karl…”It is what it is.” Isn’t UCLA basketball enough?

You guys really screwed us today, if we split the next two games against Oregon and ASU, we’ll be stuck with Stoops for another year. Only a Karl Dorrell coached UCLA team would give a game to us…

I would expect Karl to be gone after this year. Your pain will end soon.

All I can say is BRUCE DAVIS. The dude plays hard every play. He was all over the place. Die hard Bruin fans, I will see you at the Rose Bowl next week

I agree with Diego and Joe Bruin concerning Ben Olson. Yes he is not the strongest Qb out there and he gets hurt way too easily, but if you put him in a pro style offense and out of the WCo that this clown KD is so in love with he would produce far better results. I hope the next coach really takes a hard look at Chris Forcier. Please tell me he can throw accurately from 10 yards out Diego. It would be funny except I hate laughing at our player’s.

If Karl is a good friend and runs a clean program then call him to get some dignity and step aside. So he graduates 2 players more a year then the past? Those past players were in the NFL or at least Canada. UCLA baseball is even turning corners just like all other sports trying to win, so why are we settling for something that is ok? Karl may be a good person but, this is a business and ok does not pay the bills in any good company. So be a good friend and tell him to leave the 2 million aside if he really is such a good guy! and has dignity since he does not deserve 200k. There are somegood high school coaches in the area. Oh yeah and nice to know all of our top verbal recruits are leaving already…. Great job UCLA for keeping around a good clean? whatever that is program…. Clean is for the 50’s and Johnny U. It is reality, just like Bonds and baseball, there is nothing clean in sports, not when I played there or after and never will be. If you are clean you are playing DIII at or NAIA somewhere! You think LSU players and USC player’s can spell much less graduate. Players with 8k rocks in their ears but, come from broken homes and make 200 bucks working in the library one day a week. Sadto realize those who never played sports and ask Karl’s teamates what they thought of him… Oh yeah Terry’s RAT! that is why no one who played with him wants his kids to play for him or to coach with him… They head to the arch rival across town…. I would rather be OU getting busted once in a while ratherthen to loose outright!!!!! to U of A and Notre Dame. Oh and Utah oh and Notre Dame lost to NAVY NAVY people!!!!!

Karl is the biggest loss UCLA has ever had so get rid of this bad mark. I can care less if he is a good person, he is a crappy coach and has 0 recrutiing power or self respect or else he would fire himself! I am going to be a ducks fan if UCLA does not do anything after this year… At least they try to win! ASU people? Hell the entire pac 10 tries we are settling andwe are UCLA… Time to get some honor and respect back!

What will be the excuse today? None. I don’t know about the rest of you, but I was torn today. I wanted UCLA to win the game, no doubt about it. But the only way Dorrell will go is if he continues to lose. The more he loses, the better the chances are that he gets fired.The more he loses,the bore recruits we lose. I am tired of losing, then having to wait until the basketball season in order to feel some sort of redemption. Unless D.G fires Dorell now, which would not be a bad thing. Hello Steve Maruicci.

Well i think kd should go now.Maybe i wrong but UCLA can’t lose anymore games if they want to go to a big bowl game.

Yea, nice personal foul in the last two minutes and going after the refs at the end of the game….a real class guy Bruce Davis is

We should try and get that Zona coach, uh Stoops wow he looked like a friggin genious, oh wait no he sucks but he still be a step up. I do think Dumbell is awfull at preparation, and the offensive scheme is the worst, except for mayber Notre Dame (who handed UCLA’s asses on a platter to us). And whats with this Callahan guy raining on our parade, trying to out gutter are beloved offensive genious. Dumbell has something to live up to, it is fathomable given up to ASU, or SC. or Troy… I just cant wait for the postseason matchup with Witchita or Montana St, in the payless shoes bowl, on Nov 30th. SLEEP TIGHT KD, and at least I profited off this travesty.

At this point in the season the only thing I hope for is that we beat SC so we can keep the “bell” for another year.

Why do you people keep on talking about a bowl game? We have the three hardest games left on our schedule. We only have five wins, need six for consideration….Diego? Olson absolutely sucks! He has lead feet, terrible vision, no feel for the game. These are the reasons his gets hurt. Not to mention his has no balls, he is married, etc… He needs to go on to a new mission and that is not football. We need a complete new coaching staff and a new AD.

Whoever it was that wrote that the Loose Cannons should cancel the talk to Coach Dorrell segment was RIGHT ON THE MARK! I called them three weesk ago, after we lost to Notre Dame and was livid with them. I told them that they should’ve asked Dorrell question that would poke holes about his offense. I told them that they needed to start attacking his coaching decisions when they have them on to interview.

After Game Comments:
Karl won’t be happy to read this (taken from a paper in AZ).

Question to Christian Taylor -
Asked afterward how to prevent the final four weeks of the season from becoming bogged down in the future of Dorrell, Christian Taylor shrugged.

“To us, we’re gone anyway,” the middle linebacker said. “You guys always talk about Coach Dorrell’s future, but we’ve got 20-something seniors and, yeah, you want to leave a good legacy, but we have no control over that. So why would we worry about it?

“We don’t have any control over that. It’s up to the (athletic director), obviously. If we win, he won’t get fired. But we’re not winning. Whatever is going to happen, I don’t know.

“It’s not really up to me. I just want to play football and I’m just going to try to get as many guys around me that want to play football, too. Every Saturday it’s a game, whether you’re playing for the Pac-10 championship or whether you’re not. Arizona wasn’t playing for (expletive) today and they beat us, and we were playing to stay in the hunt.”

Wow, “we’re gone”, “why would we worry about it”, etc…

Wow, sounds like Mr. Taylor isn’t the biggest fan as well…

Go Bruins!!!

John, I can’t fully disagree with you on Ben; he has brought this on himself; however, as I wrote, there’s no way that the best QB in the nation suddenly doesn’t know how to throw a pass. There’s a great deal to do with an offense. I used the example of Carson Palmer, and that’s a prime example of what good/great coaching can do for a player that has natural talent, but needs the coaches to bring it out of him.

I also can’t agree with you on Guererro. DG has done far too well to be fired. I will write this; if he doesn’t cross the Admnistration, have a confrontation and FORCE (UCLA’s administration DOES NOT Want a real football coach) the hiring of a real football head coach, then I will Have to turn on him.

Those comments translated into disinterested play and body language out on the field.

Diego, DG played baseball for UCLA and he weighed probably 160lbs. He now weighs more than a 100lbs more. This is disgraceful. I do not think he is the right man for the job. Football and Basketball make money for the Univesity. When I went to UCLA we had a great swim team, Olympic gold medalists. We do not have a swim team anymore. Why? $$$$. DG will not get this football program going unless Ben Howland helps him in recruiting a great coach. We have to pay the money too!

Olson may have been the top recruit in high school, but that was years and years ago. After high school, he went on his mission and didn’t play football during that name. There have been other highly touted recruits who stepped away from the game, and never fully recovered. Look at Drew Henson, who started ahead of Tom Brady at Michigan. After concentrating on baseball for two years, he tried to restart his football career but he’s been cut a number of times since then.

I’d like some feed back on Rick Neuheisel. A lot of you either love him or hate him. All I know ,besides the fact that he played here is that as a coach at Colorado his teams played very well. At Washington it seemed like they were’nt that good on defense but managed to win and even went to the Rose Bowl game and won. What kind of offense did he run? Would he be a good hire? At one time I suggested to after him, but after reading some of the things written about him,I’m a little confused. We don’t need a guy who is trouble.waiting to happen. I have written in the past about how long I have been a fan and it’s been since 1965. I say that only to let you guys and gals knoe that there has never been in that time a coach as bad as Karl Dorrell. Not even Pepper Rodgers whose 1972 and 1973 teams racked up points but was let go after only 3 years because he could not beat SC. I’m so desperate for a coaching change I would even be happy if one of you would write a lie about his firing just so that I can have something to cheer about if even for a minute.

Louis,
I really think Neuheisel is the right choice for UCLA. Granted he has baggage, primarily because he “toe’s the line” with regard to recruiting. And he really doesn’t have to, as he is naturally a good recruiter. Problem with UCLA taking a risk on Rick is case in point. They don’t take risks! (that’s the title of our offensive playbook) Although, was KD a safe bet or a risk? And they selected KD over Mike Riley which I thought was a monumental mistake at the time. Obviously, they opted for an alum, but then if you’re going to risk (with an alum), why not Neuheisel? We would be a regular mainstay Top 15 team every year. With our current status, KD is transforming the UCLA initials to reflect “U Can Lose Anywhere”.
We just need to hire a “winner”. Who is the Ben Howland of football?

KD sucks

I agree on Neuheisel. As I said here last week, RN is a proven winner, a Bruin, and UCLA is his dream job. He is one guy who can compete with PC head to head to land blue chip recruits in the LA area and nationally. Just have to keep him on a short leash. To me, this is a no brainer. Of course, in my mind, KD is already gone.

What in the world is a “West Coast Offense” anyway? Is it some NFL scheme? On another note I’m thrilled for Navy but it’s pretty disgusting that the ONLY game the horrible ND team has won is against UCLA IN THE ROSE BOWL!! Unforgivable.

Neuhisel:
- Walk on from Southern Calif, who ends up starting and leading UCLA to Rose Bowl win and named game MVP
- Head coaching record of 66-30, including Washington Rose Bowl win in 2000 and taking Colorado to #4 plus two 10 win seasons
- fired at Washington by AD Barbara Hedges (a former Trojan) who subsequentially resigned.
- never convicted of anything, he won wrongful termination suits against both U of Wash and NCAA.

So the problem is….
A UCLA Alum from Southern Calif who could recruit and inspire to parallel Pom Pom Pete across town

UCLA fans and administration…Can you handle it???

Its pretty sad but funny that UCLA’s name was still mentioned among the top of ESPN and college gameday. However, not in the context we wanted… The big news today was ND losing to Navy, and they had a clip of Weis’ press conference after the game where he talks about streaks and how UCLA was the last team ND beat.

Yes, Notre Dame lost to Navy and so we remain the only team that has saved them from the shame of a winless season. Hard to believe.

Nice clock control last ten minutes of game. We had momentum and looked like einstein wasnt even playing to win Why didnt he push envelope and throw oscar into two minute offense and give Az even less time to try to figure him out. Sure if we had another quarter we might of won but I guess Einstein is happy with a moral victory. D.G doesnt have the balls to fire Dorrell which he should immediately. Bring on Neiuheisel. Man has balls and crafty as hell.

my bad Rick is from AZ.

DUH-rell=piece of shit LOSER.
Somebody in charge at UCLA grow some balls and FIRE HIM.

I only wished that UA had won by a greater margin. Rasshan played well, but he is definitely not going to save UCLA’s dismal season. KD should be fired at the end of the season allowing DG to hire a quality coach.

I wrote a letter to the L.A. Times in which I predicted that UCLA would lose to Cal (ok, I was wrong), probably lose to WSU (I was right), wouldn’t be surprised if UCLA lost to Arizona (I was right) and would definitely lose to Oregon, ASU and USC. Let’s hope that I call the last three right.

Even if UCLA had a .500 record, it would be a travesty to invite this team to any bowl game. Should UCLA win a bowl game, DG might want to keep KD. One thing is for damn sure, if DG doesn’t fire KD, DG should be fired!

It really hurt to root for UA, but every game that UCLA loses should convince that KD has to go!

wayne you sir are a moron to come here and expect ucla FANS to HOPE that we lose our last 3 conference games. what in the hell is wrong with you, and others like you?

FIRST AND FOREMOST, ROOT FOR YOUR TEAM! if u cant do that, then u arent a real loyal bruin, and just someone who wants to prey on someone elses downfall.

take that root for us to fail crap somewhere else. i HATE reading that.

be a loyal bruin and root for our team to succeed and win as much as we can

Joe Bruin, the only reason that I want UCLA to lose the rest of the games is for DG to realize that once and for all that KD has to go.

Joe, I really don’t shive a git what you like to read. If you want KD to stay as HC, you are the moron. Isn’t it fun to watch the “mighty” UCLA Bruins lose to all lower tier teams? Isn’t it fun to watch USC kick our ass every year? We should look at how USC handled poor coaches. USC fired how many? Larry Smith, John Robinson and Paul Hackett until Carroll was hired. Before Carroll came, USC was no powerhouse and lost to UCLA for nine consecutive years.

So, Joe Bruin, in desperate times, desperate measures have to be taken. And BTW, I’m sorry for the players who play hard every Saturday and try to win.

Hey DD, this is not a messege for you. This is for the fans out there. So what are the candidates for HC. I want to remember them.

Rick Neuheisel is the obvious choice.

Oh, and by the way, Joe Bruin is a moron. The ONLY thing that matters now in UCLA football is that DUH-rell and all his staff be FIRED and a competent coach be hired. All the rest is rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.

“..Before Carroll came, USC was no powerhouse and lost to UCLA for nine consecutive years.

Eight.

Give Joe Bruin a break, I see where he’s coming from. Every weekend I hope we come out and win, but there’s a part of me that knows every win is a coin in KD’s pocket. DG doesn’t want to fire KD, he’s made that pretty obvious. In fact, he’s never been good at firing.. look how long it took him to get rid of Lavin. No real results for years, just “hey, UCLA never plays well during the regular season, but watch out come tourney time”. Couple of wins in the tourney and we’re stuck with a mediocre coach for another year (rinse and repeat for three or four years). Same thing I see with football, I’ve hated KD as a coach for at least three years, thought I was going to get a new coach last year and then we beat SC. As sweet as that victory was (oh soooo sweet) , it made me sick that I’d have to deal with another season of poor coaching. Root for UCLA to lose? Never.. see the bright side of another embarrassing loss? You betcha.

Oh nevermind, it wasn’t Joe Bruin that needed defending.. carry on

Hey Doug I am with you. Let’s get Neuheisel. The record speaks for itself. The NCAA charges were bogus anyway.

I say it’s time to replace KD. I attended UCLA 1959-1961 and have had the same seats at the Rose Bowl since day one and the fans around me feel KD has had ample time to rebuild the program. No more nice guys for coach it’s time for someone like “Red” Sanders or Rick N if one of them is available. RN should have been hired when he wanted the job years ago. Also, why wasn’t Rasshan the #3 qback from day one and doesn’t that say something about KD’s coaching abilities?????

“..No more nice guys for coach it’s time for someone like “Red” Sanders or Rick N if one of them is available.

Well, it’ll have to be Rick Neuheisal, because Red Sanders is not available.

I don’t want to sound negative and tell you all that it is not a sure thing Dorrell will be fired, but it isn’t. As we know thier have been a lot of injuries on the offense side of the ball especially. We are down to a walk-on at running back and a guy who had never thrown a pass in 2 plus years. That wll be the excuse KD and DG will probably sing about as the reason he should get another year. I sincerely hope I’m wrong but I’am convinced Guerrerro is scared to fire Dorrell.

How can this be?? How can our rival USC have Pete Carrol, the Lakers have Phil Jackson, and now even the Dodgers have Joe Torre, and UCLA have a no name no good coach??!! How can this be??

When will this great school of mine take the same approach as most great sport organizations and hire a PROVEN WINNING COACH??!!

It actually PAINS me to watch the games lately. As a season ticket holder for the last 5 years i am finding more reasons this year to GIVE them away!!

Please….someone fire KD!!

When you hire an AD from a school that dosn`t even have a football program, how can you expect the hiring of a good football coach. Same AD will hire a new one. KD had no Head football coaching experiance, but most important he is not capable of motitvation, or the spur of the moment thinking that is needed for adjustments in football.
Shocked to read AD statement. Good friends don`t win football games. “it is what it is”…What a losing comment.Red Sanders just yelled from his grave. Last comment; football is a game of putting together 11 players on offense & 11 players on defense that work from the same page. That is the coaches job. Its not fair to put the losing on one position; quarterback or any other position. Lets find a new AD & Coach……Go Bruins!

Why the hell would DG be scared to fire Einstein? I could be wrong but it better not be the damn race issue. Arent we over that yet? Race is irrelevant, wining is whats relevant. R.N. should of been the coach after he left Colorado but slipped through the cracks and we lost him. I truly believe he will be the next howland whose dream job was always to be a Bruin leader and I think R.N. has the same ambition. He is master of x and 0’s, can recruit and wants to win. The Bruin nation will rally around him cause he is a leader who wont make excuses for poor performances and will show SOME SORT OF PULSE. Bye bye KD, good luck in D2

Peter; I hope you are right but you are wrong race is always an issue though in this day and age you would think it would be irrelevant. Ask yourself why has let this go on for 5 years and why did he DG not have the sense to fire him already>

No matter what happens with the remainder of the year. DG is not going to fire KD early. He will wait until the end of the season and see how bad it is. If by any chance UCLA wins the remainder of their games against the last three opponnents. KD will be giving another year to change things around. Don’t be surprise if it happens.

1. NEVER root for your own team to lose. If you want the coach gone thats one thing, and i can agree with you on that, but once u root for your team to lose, you lose all respect and your opinion means absolutely nothing.

2. the guy that said arent we over race yet? umm… NO! race is a huge hot button topic all over the nation, and a huge part of politics, whether you or I lilke it or not. All you have to do to even prove it in your own life is ask yourself the serious question if you guys brought home a girl of the oppposite race (if you are black, then white, if you are white, then black) and how would your family and friends mostly FEEL about that relationship? Well for some of you they may just be happy that u HAVE a girl, but really, most would probably be put out a bit at the interracial dating. You know it, I know it. Im saying this because we still have issues with it, its a touchy subject and just because you want to ignore it doesnt mean it doesnt still exist. They have to handle this carefully as not to offend anyone. its not just a simple clean cut issue here. alot of black people/white people want dorrell fired, but doing so isnt just that easy. its about how it looks from a public relation standpoint as well. REALIZE that.

3. stop callin the guy DUH rell. thats obnoxious and makes you guys sound like you are 8 years old. childish antics. who will take what you say seriously if you call people names? grow up!

I’m sure Dorrell will be quick to reminds us tomorrow when he appears on the Lose Cannon’s show that if UCLA wins it’s last 3 games, we will automatically be in the Rose Bowl. I’m sure he’ll also mention how Oregon is the only other team in the conference along with UCLA that controls it’s own destiny at this time. Hard to believe, but true. I’m sure ASU will end Dorrell’s hope of a Pac Ten Championship and his job security. Does anyone know where Rick Neuheisal is these days and why he isn’t a HC somewhere now? Perhaps DG should look elsewhere for our next HC?

Believe me I am not so naive to believe that race still isnt a salent issue in todays America.
How relevant is this in the sports world?i am not exactly sure, however I believe we can not allow this albatross to deter D.G. from pulling the plug on this disaster. If D.G is hesitating on firing K.D because of race then he is demonstrating racisim in one of its more insidious forms. Can’t say if R.N would save the program, but as of now there is no program.

todays america INCLUDES the sports world. how can u say it doesnt? it includes all entertainment, sports included. its not just kids and the jena six and that kinda stuff. sports figures are involved as well man, dont be naive to THAT.

and im not saying DG wouldnt fire him because he is BLACK, no, its because of the backlash he could get FROM it, the lack of black coaches in the college football ranks, there is alot more at stake here besides just winning games. there is a political battle here and you guys need to realize that. you cant just yell for DGs head on this. i know we all want the best for our team, but at some point we have to look at the whole picture as well and realize where our AD is coming from.

lets just chill out. the pressure is on KD. there is an article in the LA times finally on it, its out there. its a huge subject now. he cant escape without winning out, so lets just wait and see what happens.

Chill out my ass, while DUH-rell the DOOFUS king makes a mockery of our beloved UCLA and its football program. It’s not even an option to “chill out.” Nobody here cares what color DUH-rell is, we care that he can’t coach. If he can’t coach, he shouldn’t be the head coach of UCLA. PERIOD.

Joe Bruin, who has obviously overdosed on the Kool-Aid, makes one of the most ridiculous statements I’ve ever heard: “there is alot more at stake here besides just winning games” First of all, “a lot” is two words. Secondly, what is more important to a football program or coach than winning games? If you don’t win the games, then you’re a LOSER. And LOSERS get FIRED.

Of course, here’s a lot more to being a coach than “just” winning games, but if you don’t win, the other stuff is meaningless. Coach Wooden is known for developing his players as men, teaching them about life, etc. But if he lost all the time, what would he be known for? Nobody would know anything about him, because he would have been FIRED. Just like DUH-rell should be fired for being an incompetent BOZO.

Does anyone have the full text of Dorrell’s post-game interview?
Did ‘DG’ answer any questions?

Tommy Bruin ditto!!

We have to keep the pressure on Duh-rell, he could be pink with green stripes, and who cares. The man is a terrible coach and ultimately who cares what the media or anyone else says. Let them and every other school in America worry about Black Coaches. We just need to fire our WORTHLESS WASTE OF SPACE COACH. Then we can start to find a New coach, one who isn’t Named Steve Lavin or Karl Duh-rell.

Go Bruins ‘08 Assuming Duh-rell is gone!

Rick Neuhisel is good coach, but bad news. You know why he was let go in U.Washington, right? NCAA infractions. More important than winning football is the reputation of UCLA as a clean program, that graduates their students and lastly, wins games on the football field.

Be careful what you ask for, or you’ll get another handicap parking violations, another Univ. of Miami program after Erickson left, just bunch of misguided athletes that ruin the UCLA as a school and not just a football program.

On that note, instead of insulting the coach, throw out good candidates for coaches that UCLA can hire and can get (i.e. someone who’s a stand up, character guy, a great coach and would want to develop a middle of the road program to an elite program), and I’m not talking about someone like a Neuhisel or a Kelvin Sampson (Head Bball coach at Indiana…look what Indiana’s going through because they just want to WIN so much).

OK OK - I give up. My Dad’s been a DumpDorreller for years but I’ve been staying faithful and hoping for the best. I BLEW IT - Dudley must go - NO passion, NO gameplan NO idea why he is even coaching. Let’s move on now - and regain the magic we had in the early 90’s.

joe bruin, hey stupid maybe your on the wrong site for your political correctness, I think people here are pointing out an inept coach, and in fact by rooting for them winning more games this year you are in turn rooting for a worse team and more losses in the long term. I didnt even root but I was smart enough to lay 500 on the money line yesterday for Zona because it feking obvious that was gonna be a loss, and for chris sake if it is a given that your squad is going to play down to opponents and only luck out on a win late occasionaly than you have serious problems. I personally don’t believe that the players are playing hard either so I don’t feel bad for them either, yes its the coaches fault but they have all given up and mailed it in I believe since the Notre Dame game. Just proof how pitiful the program has become the most cheering in the stands all year was for a Stanford go ahead score against SC.

Just wanted to see if a couple of points could me made in the midst of all the chaos. First point that seems to be very evident to me. The injury problem at UCLA IS a direct reflection of the attitude and coaching style of Doofus and his posse. If your practices are consistently lacking in intensity and heart so is your regime in the weight room. The injuries come from a combination of lack of desire (no one wants to go full speed for duh-rell) and a lack of conditioning. Point number two. If anyone out there thinks that the coaching failure at UCLA is all on KD you are dillusional! The shit flows downhill and until you get rid of DG along with the rest of the mess you might just see a repeat of the same bad coaching choices in years to come.
Bottom line… time to ditch the good ol’ boys school for good and put the Bruins into the mix among all the other “best of the best” PAC-10/NCAA programs.

I agree with Mikey. Get rid of the whole crew and start over. As for a black coach? We had a great one the wings for defense. He was a great Bruin! A Super Bowl Champ! He wanted to be on the Bruin staff! DG and KD did not hire him?…Ken Norton Jr. now makes USC better and better every year. UCLA should be ashamed to lose such talent to our rival. Sorry to say but this is very typical of the way we do business. DG and KD should both be gone.

an issue or not, racism or not, the firing of KD cannot ignore the race issue. On a national stage, it will be a topic of discussion, because that’s just what the media do. There are four (?) black head coaches out of 119 Division 1a programs. Firing Dorrell means we’re taking away 25% of black head coaches. That’s a huge swing that cannot be ignored by the national media who thrive on such statistics.

Whether it’s correct to consider his race or not is a moot point in light of the manner in which the national media will receive the news.

To support the firing, however, there’s sufficient evidence of his ineptitude. There was also ample time given to KD( he received more time than many coaches at a big time school -longer than Zook, longer than Callahan et. al); therefore that should insulate UCLA from any criticism that alleges racism.

I’d like to think that race hasn’t played a part in KD staying on this long, although it’s difficult to think that way; however, dana wrote a very excellent post detailing the event surrounding KD. I side with Dana’s assessment. The key to KD staying this long was that aberration of the 10 win season in 2005. I thought that was the most fraudulent 10 win season I had ever seen, but you very well couldn’t fire KD after a 10 win season (UCLA only has a handful of those in its history). That season guaranteed his return for 2006, in which he let the team collapse and the offense returned to being mediocre. Last season, though, he did one thing. He did the ONE thing that he HAD NOT done the four years before: He BEAT a top 10 team. I know we compare him to Lavin, but the truth is that Lavin, up until last year and even now, was better than KD. Lavin always beat ranked teams. He always upset teams. KD never had a signature win until last year’s win over SUC. To this date, KD only has two wins against teams ranked in the top-15 (USC last year and Cal this year). That’s it!

AFter beating SUC, it was tough to fire him because there was a sense of talent. Also, if you remember, KD actually showed emotion for the first time ever on teh sideline during the SUC. The victory was a confirmation of our talent. At that point, the choice was pretty simple; Kd had to return. With 20 out of 22 starters returning, you had to give KD his final chance to make it or fail. To date, he HAS FAILED! Injuries withstanding, HE HAS FAILED! Bad breaks included, HE HAS FAILED! He has failed to prepare his team; he has failed to make the proper decisions; he has failed to say the right things; he has failed to handle the situation in a proper manner; he has failed to motivate his players (what an impotent attempt that was with the bracellets!); he has failed to respond to the criticism; he has failed to discipline his players’ misplaced bravado (Bruce Davis and Trey Brown are allowed to talk ridiculous trash that not only is inaccurate, but EMBARRASSES themselves, the team and the university) and he has failed to have the team realize its talent.

If race so damn important lets see one other school in the nation offer KDork a hc job,… come on now he wont get one interview case closed…I am sure we can find a minority canidate… I am sure any person of color doesnt want to touch Dumbell with a 10 mile pole, I am pretty confident Sharpton and Jesse will stay away from this one. If not, hell why don’t we just a hire a woman cant be any worse, how bat the chick from that movie Wildcats?

Good point Mikey. I never thought about the injury problem and lack of intensity from the players deriving from their lack of passion playing for KD. Makes total sense. Would you run through the wall for your leader if your leader didn’t possess any demonstrable traits like passion, intensity and responsibility? I feel watching kd and listening to DG that i am in some Orwelian world where words are inverted and loose meaning. One more question, how many recruits would we loose if KD gets dumped?

How come the LSUs and Ohio States never get this injury bug that seems to plague us every year. Can’t be just luck. Has to be preparation and conditioning. How many times in the last few yrs has the #1 QB gone down? I’ve lost count. Both starting RBs? You could go on and on.

I agree that the 10 win season was smoke and mirrors, and the AZ and SC debacles proved it. Pac-10 coach of the year? What a joke.

Its now obvious the team has given up on KD. With his job seemingly on the line, playing the second sub-par team in a row in conference, controlling your own destiny for the Rose Bowl, and to still perform like that? This is what happened to the Dodger’s and why they had to get rid of Grady Little. If you think we’re going to run the table and still get into the Rose Bowl now, you’re high. Still, I’ll be at the next two home games cheering my lungs out.

I’m a big RN guy. He’ll give us the name recognition. ESPN will cover him on a regular basis. Player love him and will play for him. The flap at UW was based on entering a basketball pool for the NCAAs, after he had gotten permission from the AD’s office. Bogus, and he won his suit to prove it. Its time to bring RN back to Westwood.

Trying to make race an issue in this situation is just sad. DUH-rell is incompetent. It’s not even a point of contention anymore. Should we keep an incompetent head coach BECAUSE of his race? It’s total BS.

Regarding the possible controversy concerning race if Dorrell gets fired, I think its ridiculous to be cowed to do nothing over such paranoia. How much of a controversy has there been when a black college football coach has been fired?

Fritz Hill? Tony Samuel? Who are they? The fact that we don’t recognize their names shows how little controversy there was when these two black college football coaches were fired.

There’s the Tyrone Willingham thing with ND, but that was the exception and a completely unique case. Let’s be honest here- there will always be the biggest media spotlight on whatever ND does where everything gets overblown where ND gets overpraised more than it should be and criticized more than it should be. If Willingham had happened at any other school, there’s no way it would have even been more than a blip on the radar. When Washington fires Willingham, nobobdy’s going to be accusing Washington of being racist.

ND had historically given its coaches at least five years, but broke that tradition with Willingham (and, with George O’Leary for fudging his CV)when it dumped Willingham to go after Urban Meyer. Meyer had said ND was his dream job and had an out clause for ND so ND thought Meyer would take the job but ended up getting burned.

But, there’s no such tradition like that here with UCLA, and we’ve given Dorrell more than enough time to prove himself.

Plus, you know, Domer fans are a wee bit racist…. That certainly didn’t help but I’ve never seen any criticisms of Dorrell that could be construed as racist the way ND fans were saying about Willingham.

I think your missing the point. The issue I wanted to raise was if DG was slow on pulling the trigger on KD because of race. Of course there hasn’t been any overt of implicit racist comments on KD cause Bruin nation doesnt give a shit about the color of their coaches only about competence. I was wondring if DG was worried about fall out from firing Kd because of the myopians who always look at race as the issue. However now he should not worry about any blowback becasue the record of disgrace is there for everyone to see and agree.

Pete F. As much as I want to see another Blackman be successful I’m with you. I can give a (expletive) about his color if his competence and RESULTS are below whats expected. I truly believe the season is lost so I would not be opposed to DG pulling the trigger now. Make DW the interim coach to see what he can do, this move will also deflect all racial backlashes(Dana). Then bring in Nuehiesel to inject some excitement and interest back into the program, with DW as his understudy.

e40wada you must be drinkinfg the kool-aid. You must be a complete moron. You stupid horses rear end. How in the world of logic can you possibly wish for Neuheisel to be the next coach and have Walker as his understudy? You sound like an emotional woman who is hoping Walker gets the HC job after Neuheisel trains him. Are you really a USC fan or do you work for the NAACP?

We Bruin fans are understandably upset, but we are devouring are own. Leave those chewing up our own reponses to the cross towners.

Knock off the accusations against the Domers being racists. Bad decision to hire TW, but they did give him a chance and he buried the program in no time flat. Like Dorrell, needed to go quickly. Who cares about them anyway?! Let’s focus on our own problems. We’ve got plenty.

The West Coast Offense hasn’t won a thing at the college level.
-Save for Cowan and his very limited physical talent, our QBs don’t fit that style.
-Olsen should never have taken the time off, he may never make it, but the system is wrong for him.
-Maybe nerves contributed to the terrible passes, but Osaar looks like the 1970’s run first option QB.

Our pass protection needs help.
-Our QBs need to run far too often to evade the rush.
-Talent and lack of speed aside, the running backs need holes, not defenders to run through.

Injuries
-Makes one wonder why? Lack of conditioning, lack of practice instensity or lack of good luck ?

Leadership
-KD — any more questions?
-It is an old adage that leadership at the QB position is only experienced when the right system is in place for the QB.
Seems Dorrell never learned this.