Dump Dorrell

October 19, 2006

You Get What You Pay For!

Editor’s note: Since this post, we have found additional, more complete data regarding Karl Dorrell’s contract confirming the contents below.

Dan Guerrero and Morgan Center can now stop deceiving UCLA students, alums, boosters, and fans that they want to win Pac-10 championships and BCS bowl games. We have hard data that proves what we have long suspected, DG and Morgan Center are not serious about football - they pay UCLA football coaches among the lowest salaries of any marquee program in the country (#44 in the country, not including private schools, schools in PA and DE, and non responders to the survey).

The table below illustrates just how little UCLA pays for its football coaching staff compared to other Pac-10 schools. Later in this post we compare schools across the nation. The data is from a Freedom of Information Act request by Indystar.com to 215 public and 112 private Div 1 schools (Div 1 in all sports, not just football) for the 04-05 school year. Private schools like Stanford and Southern Cal are not required to comply with the request and none did. 76% of the public schools responded. Laws in PA and DE shield schools in their states from replying. Here are the cold hard facts:

Pac-10 Schools ranked by football coach salaries

1. University of California-Berkeley $3,598,278

2. University of Washington $2,796,167

3. University of Arizona $2,487,089

4. Oregon State University $2,431,916

5. Arizona State University $2,361,809

6. University of California-Los Angeles $2,009,915

7. Washington State University $1,928,469

8. University of Oregon $1,756,194

We are pretty darn near the bottom! Note also that Cal is at the top paying nearly double what we pay our coaches!?! How is that possible?! It’s a good bet Southern Cal is at the top, and Stanford may be in the middle of the pack. That puts UCLA at either #7 or #8, which says it all. You get what you pay for!!

Dan Guerrero should make a decision … either build a real winning program or be straight with alums that our football program is not a priority. If UCLA wants a football program worthy of the excellence we demand elsewhere at UCLA then DG needs to get rid of KD and put a capital structure in place to make it happen! If public school Cal can do it, so can UCLA. No excuses DG!!

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More interesting facts:

  1. Maryland, that perennial power out of the top football conference ACC, pays 60% more ($3,231,900) in coaching salaries than UCLA!
  2. Wyoming ($1,761,802) pays their coaches nearly as much as UCLA, which puts our loss to them in a new light.
  3. From the obvious department: the last many NCAA champions, for which we have data, pay their coaches a lot more than UCLA:
    • Texas $4,887,932
    • LSU $4,163,743
    • Ohio State $4,033,217
    • Florida State $3,304,825
    • Tennessee $4,224,673
  4. It’s hard to compete on the field when you are competing for coaching talent against the likes of Connecticut ($2,290,633).
  5. In basketball, UCLA ($1,399,550) ranked #2 in the Pac-10, #17 nationally, in coach salaries paid for the 04-05 school year:
    • behind Washington ($1,552,332 )
    • ahead of Arizona ($1,296,957 )
    • ahead of Cal ($1,219,428 )
    • ahead of North Carolina ($1,385,359 #3 in the ACC not counting Duke)
  6. If UCLA wanted to be at an equivalent salary rank nationally in football as in basketball (#17 nationally), we would have to shell out $3,000,000 to beat out #17 Minnesota ($2,990,643). That is 50% more than what we were paying in 04-05. KD has received a raise since 04-05, but so has Howland.
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6 Comments on You Get What You Pay For!

October 20, 2006

BillSouthBay @ 9:38 am:

Well, I believe I did mention this aspect of the situation in a previous post. This is like increasing the tax collections by cutting the tax rate and increasing econonic activity. If someone could discuss this with the Athletic Department and the Chancellor, progress could be made. Pay more for better coaching talent, put more *utts in the seats at football games, get better TV coverage with more revenue, and, therefore, have more revenue to fund the other sports who need it. All good progress is difficult and requires change. Tommy Prothro was available, IMO, because he had independent income at the time. The paymaster had to bug him to cash his paychecks, some sitting in his coat for a year or more. Let’s not plan on another person like that available. Pay for results, get results, or get rid of the coach.
Bill

Steve @ 10:02 am:

this is the proof that we have been waiting for. what is shocking to me is that cal, our sister school, is paying so much more than we are. i thought the excuse was always we couldnt pay coaches because we are a public school. now we know that is a lie.

John @ 10:30 am:

Makes our loss to Oregon that much more embarassing, doesn’t it?

October 21, 2006

Woober @ 2:10 pm:

lol. The acc is a hell of a lot better than the pac 10

DumpDorrell @ 5:48 pm:

right … Hey you should get your keyboard fixed. Your G is printing W. Just fyi.

October 29, 2006

Kooter @ 9:46 pm:

I believe Southern Cal pays Pete Carroll just over $3Million which is 30% more than UCLA’s entire coaching staff.

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